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Wednesday, July 23, 2008

A Little Break

My fellow raytractors, I have a story to tell. I've felt that perhaps I've been going about this the wrong way. Currently, I've been fighting depression [due to the amount of stress the outside world has given me], and sometimes I feel as though I'm posting out of sheer anger or strong emotion.
I've decided to take a break, and try to get my life together. With that said, I'll be taking a break from posting. I've also decided to delete all posts from me here and my blog. A sort of renewal, if you will. I'll check in from now and then. So, thank you all.

I'll be seeing you later. Everybody, take it easy.

220 comments:

  1. Take care of yourself, Ranting.

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  2. I feeling much the same way, so go get yourself better, m'man.

    I doubt we'll be gone when you come back.

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  3. Best of luck, do what is best for your health and don't worry about Ray and his minions, they'll just keep saying the same stuff.

    I think I can speak for all of us when I say we will miss you and your posts. :'(

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  4. Hey, I went through a bout of depression a while ago myself, so I feel for you.

    I wish that you wouldn't delete all your posts, but that is your call to make, so I won't fight you on that. At least there's this one, so nobody can accuse you of doing a Winston Smith, ala Ray Comfort's blog.

    Best of luck to you - see you when you get back. I won't pray for you. : )

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  5. Good luck and get better- I'm sure you have the best wishes of everyone here.

    And I think theshaggy is right - even if this blog started because of the strike, it seems to have taken on a life of its own. I find a lot more satisfaction here that I ever did at Ray's, and don't intend to go back.

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  6. Take care. We won't be praying for you.

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  7. Ranting Student,

    Take care of yourself, a similar thing happened to me, and I totally understand. Take care, we'll look forward to your return!

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  8. RS,

    Your presence will definitely be missed. I, too, have been through some very severe bouts of depression. If you need someone to talk to, just let me know. All the best to you.

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  9. I second FD's thoughts, if you need to contact me, I would be more than willing to do whatever I can to help--even just by talking. Take care, man!

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  10. yeah if you ever want to email somebody I'm always available :-)

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  11. someone assuming said...
    $10 says the theists see this thread where we admit we've been depressed at one point or another ans use it to prove atheists are miserable assholes and that jesus is swell.


    as a theist, i personally know that depression is a very real condition. i have battled with it on & off for years.

    i'm not commenting here today to say what you assume i will say but rather i send my prayers for a speedy recovery for ranting.

    although ranting is a little rough around the edges, i like him.

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  12. Please come back soon, RS.

    Until then, take care of yourself.

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  13. Hope you feel better soon, Ranting.

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  14. Take care ranting. Speak to people who know their stuff, and reward yourself with all the wonderful things life has to offer.
    Dede, I appreciate your comment. You're a caring individual regardless of where you think that empathy comes from. You deserve respect for that.
    I don't know how much time you take praying a week, but if it's enough to read something beautiful like 'The Ancestor's Tale', I think RS would appreciate if you did that instead.

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  15. RS,

    All the best in your future. Please take care of yourselve. If you ever need someone to talk to please feel free to email me.

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  16. The Ranting Student said: ”Also, Sye, I wouldn't "cage match" with you because first of all I don't even know you. And you jump to something stupid?”

    Well, you seem to know me well enough to call me all those names :-) It’s okay, I figured that you’d chicken out. It’s usually the weaklings that hurl the insults, but scamper away at the first sign of opposition.

    ”It's almost like me saying, "Hey, let's go do an old fashioned duel with guns!", because well... come on, can't use your brain?”

    Yip, reading your posts, it sure looks like you’re using your brain. Too bad it’s not located in your head.

    ”Oh well. I guess not. I'm really done talking to you, and I need to move on.”

    Haven’t you said that about 3 times already? :-D

    ”Take it easy Sye, and how about laying off the threats when you're angry.”

    I am not in the least bit angry. I’m quite amused rather.

    Cheers Sergio,

    Sye

    P.S. I've actually heard through the grapevine that you can be a pretty decent guy, and I'm sure in person we'd hit it off okay. Why you chose to spew your venom on me, I don't know, but I imagine that exposing the fallacies in your worldview touched a nerve.

    Still, if you send me an email with your contact information, I'll see if we can hook up in CA. I promise not to beat you to a pulp.

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  17. Somehow I knew you'd show up again.

    Oh well, I guess Trolls never stop.

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  18. By the way, the beating to a pulp thing... Not working for me. See, violence does not take the place of intelligence.

    Understand that.

    Anyways, Sye, I take it you talk to craig...am I right?

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  19. Ps. What touched a nerve was that some random guy on the internet wants to "fight" with me, because he can't think of another thing to do. I am in no way obliged to share my personal information with anybody on the internet Sye.

    And I can see your threats are getting pretty hasty here. Getting fritzy now?

    Really, and I'm trying to take a break here. But unfortunately, I can see that wont be possible.

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  20. RS,

    Can't you feel the christian love?? Feel how it burns, I guess that's where the hell idea came from.

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  21. I know.

    I know. Makes you really believe in Christianity. Almost as good as Terry.

    The funny thing is, he actually believes I hand out my personal information to people like him.

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  22. The Ranting Student said: "By the way, the beating to a pulp thing... Not working for me. See, violence does not take the place of intelligence."

    Um, no, insults do right? :-D

    - which you started waaaaay before I challenged (not threatened) you).

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  23. No, you're pretty threatening.

    One, you continue to ask for my personal information.

    Two, you say you MIGHT not beat me to a pulp.

    Yep. Sounds like threatening to me.

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  24. @ The Ranting Student,

    Sergio, drugs are not the answer.

    You said:"One, you continue to ask for my personal information."

    I never asked for it once, I suggested that if you wish to hook up, you could send it to me.

    "Two, you say you MIGHT not beat me to a pulp."

    Um, I said that I promise NOT TO beat you to a pulp - slight difference.

    Cheers,

    Sye

    P.S. I sense that you actually do have problems Sergio, so I promise to lay off, even if you continue with your vile insults.

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  25. Sye
    Thanks for the drug tip, but just like your God, you don't seem to follow your own rules.
    Ps. I always state that I prefer my second name(Sergio makes me sound too italian, I've been told. Or, it's a tad bit latin, too. Nothing wrong with that, though, but I always prefer Daniel).

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  26. By the way, personal policy...I will never reveal my personal information on the net unless I trust the person. There's obvious reasons why.

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  27. The Ranting Student said: "Ps. I always state that I prefer my second name(Sergio makes me sound too italian, I've been told. Or, it's a tad bit latin, too. Nothing wrong with that, though, but I always prefer Daniel)."

    Okay Daniel ;-)

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  28. RS,

    Maybe Sye thought that because you're not a christian you never saw Mr. Rogers and learned not to give your info to strangers. Oh, and in case you never learned, don't take candy from strangers either, you can except drugs or other stuff but not candy.

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  29. Sye, you are beneath contempt.

    The really sad thing is that you see no conflict between threatening someone with physical harm and what you claim to believe. Of course, if you saw any conflict between anything and the demented fairy tale you call a faith, you'd probably have to question your beliefs sooner or later, and that sort of intellectual honesty is usually fatal to theists.

    Take your infantile threats elsewhere. If you can't cut it in rational debate, we're not interested.

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  30. The Ranting Student said: "By the way, personal policy...I will never reveal my personal information on the net unless I trust the person. There's obvious reasons why."

    Well, seriously, mine is all available through my website, so feel free to use it if you ever feel the need.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  31. I'll never need of it.

    Cheers

    Ranting.

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  32. Tripmaster Monkey said: "Take your infantile threats elsewhere. If you can't cut it in rational debate, we're not interested."

    Please direct me to ONE threat I have made. What you fail to realize is that I challenged (not threatened) him, after many insults he hurled at me. Actually, from what I've heard, he may be decent enough to even admit that.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  33. Tripmaster Monkey said: "If you can't cut it in rational debate, we're not interested."

    I'd be happy to debate you. Name the time and the place, or would you rather have me set it up?

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  34. Actually, telling somebody to give you their information online to fight them is a threat.

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  35. And, I didn't want to be the one who says it...

    but nobody wants to debate you here.
    It's like a cat chasing it's tail...

    Sye, I don't think anybody has a problem with YOU, just the way you debate.

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  36. "I promise not to beat you to a pulp."

    This is also a type of threat popular to the bully variety. It's not a direct threat but a threat nonetheless. For reals Sye this is like the most inappropriate thread to pick a fight.

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  37. The Ranting Student said: "Actually, telling somebody to give you their information online to fight them is a threat."

    You are forgetting that you instigated this with your insults, and that any 'fight' would be totally voluntary. It was a challenge after you called me a 'chickenshit,' to confront that insult.

    I don't suppose you go around in person saying "troll, creep, bitch, dumbass, chickenshit" to people do you? Between the 2 of us, if what I said, and what you said, were said in person, you would be judged the aggressor.

    Perhaps you are forgetting: "chickenshit chickenshit chickenshit...
    ooh whatcha gonna do? (July 21, 2:12 PM)


    You don't seem the type to dare say that in person.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  38. The Skeptical Sorcerer said: "For reals Sye this is like the most inappropriate thread to pick a fight."

    Well, I didn't pick a fight, but still, by what absolute standard of morality would that be wrong?

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  39. The Ranting Student said: "Sye, I don't think anybody has a problem with YOU, just the way you debate."

    Um, so, were your insults directed at me, or the way I debate?

    The thing is, debate presupposes the laws of logic. It is totally fair for me to ask how professed atheists account for the laws of logic if they wish to use them.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  40. Guys,

    Why don't we stop taking into account anything this Sye asshole says?

    It is obvious that he is a troll. he might be a god-believing troll, but a troll all right.

    He does not even know the difference between inference and the fallacy of circular arguments. So, just let him be. This is beyond his intelligence. He can only do that. All because he wants to believe that his tyrant, shitty, needy god exists.

    Maybe he knows that if he was forced to really understand the difference between inference and circular reasoning he would clearly see that his argument for the existence of that shit merde caca he wants so desperately to believe in, would be invalid and circular, so he better not understand.

    G.E.

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  41. Get Education said: "He does not even know the difference between inference and the fallacy of circular arguments."

    Perhaps you can explain by what standard of logic anything is 'fallacious,' how you account for that standard, and why that standard necessarily applies to me.

    (Don't worry, I know you won't :-)

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  42. Sye,

    oh god do you seriously need a book to tell you to be nice and considerate?? What moral absolutes? You're own bible doesn't even have moral absolutes, one minutes god's slaughtering children and the next he's saying "thou shall not kill". Even Ray's buddy Todd Friel admits god changed from the old testament to the new.

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  43. The skeptical sorcerer said: "do you seriously need a book to tell you to be nice and considerate."

    Nope, God has "written His laws upon our hearts," but they are confirmed in the Bible. Now back to the question you ducked: "By what absolute standard of morality is ANYTHING wrong?"

    Resume ducking :-)

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  44. Sye said:
    Nope, God has "written His laws upon our hearts," but they are confirmed in the Bible. Now back to the question you ducked: "By what absolute standard of morality is ANYTHING wrong?"
    What makes you think that there is an "absolute standard" of morality? It's just been pointed out to you how contradictory your god's behaviour is.

    If he can't be morally consistent, then how can he be used as the standard for absolute morality?

    Morality's just something we've had to work out as a species to help us survive.

    PS: Sye, you've never explained how your superstitious world view can account for the laws of logic. I asked once before which bible verses can be used for that; you "invited" me to your bible study but never posted the verses nor said where the study is.

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  45. Sye said....

    "Nope, God has "written His laws upon our hearts" (proof needed, if you say "conscience" you still need to prove it's from your god)

    I addressed your error in assuming we have absolute moral standards. Continue ducking my fuckingly brilliant point about your god. I'm no expert on the origin on our society's morals but I know there is no proof they solely came from the bible. I won't argue anymore with you here, I think G.E's right, It's not worth arguing. This was suppose to be a farewell to RS and you came and pissed on the ending.

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  46. ENOUGH SYE. Sye is a troll.
    From now on, no one should even entertain anything he's got to say.

    He's done.

    Especially here.

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  47. Maragon said: "You want to meet someone? Come and meet me, peaches."

    Sure, set it up, I'll even drive. Hubby can come too :-)

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  48. The Skeptical Sorcerer said: "I won't argue anymore with you here, I think G.E's right, It's not worth arguing."

    Knew it :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  49. "Sure, set it up, I'll even drive. Hubby can come too :-)"

    I know your type.

    You want a good look at me so you can stalk me for jesus later.

    Quit trolling or I will personally ban you.

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  50. Reynold said: "Sye, you've never explained how your superstitious world view can account for the laws of logic. I asked once before which bible verses can be used for that; you "invited" me to your bible study but never posted the verses nor said where the study is."

    http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/how-do-christians-account-for.php

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  51. Maragon said: "You want a good look at me so you can stalk me for jesus later."

    Actually no, I've seen your pic on Frank Walton's site - seen enough thanks. Just accepting your invitation, which you naturally cower away from.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  52. Sye sez:

    Please direct me to ONE threat I have made. What you fail to realize is that I challenged (not threatened) him, after many insults he hurled at me.

    Your "challenge" is an implied threat...one which everyone here seems to recognize...except you. Quelle surprise.

    I'd be happy to debate you.

    No, Sye, you wouldn't be happy to debate me. "Debate" presupposes that the participants agree to bound by the fundamentals of logic...fundamentals that you have repeatedly declared do not apply to you.

    No, Sye, what you would be happy to do is yammer your idiocy and refuse to concede even a single point of logic, until your opponent quits the field in disgust, at which point you can claim your "victory". I think I'll just save some time and skip to the part where I quit the field in disgust, seeing as how we've already had this dance.

    RS sez:

    ENOUGH SYE. Sye is a troll.
    From now on, no one should even entertain anything he's got to say.

    He's done.

    Especially here.


    Well said.

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  53. Links?
    Okay.

    Here

    Here

    Here


    Ps. It's freaky that you want to stalk a female age 23. If you're ever in California, go ahead and tell me. I'll make sure the LAPD has a watch on you.

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  54. "Actually no, I've seen your pic on Frank Walton's site - seen enough thanks. Just accepting your invitation, which you naturally cower away from."

    That's hilarious.

    My fiance was so convinced that you ARE Frank Walton - he's never seen anyone stupider than either of you.

    However, just because you've called me ugly in a roundabout way based on one 4 year old picture off of Frank Waltons blog doesn't mean you wouldn't stalk me for Jesus. We've seen through your threats of violence just how unstable you are.

    I'm not afraid to meet you. I won't meet you for the same reason I won't meet any other middle aged, balding, theistard - there's no reason to.

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  55. Perhaps you're still reading the comments.

    As an atheist, I care about you, not what you believe or don't believe. With your mention of depression, this is where a Christian would begin proselytizing to get another soldier for Jesus.

    As an atheist, this is where I say I have enjoyed you on both your blog and my blog (and Ray's blog ;)). I hope that you sort out what it is that you need to and return if that fits in with your sorted life.

    My email is disco.igno@gmail.com, and if you need anything or just need to rant, please don't hesitate to drop me a line :-)

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  56. Thanks Disco.

    As you can see...I have postponed for a while.

    Once I officially leave, I'll make sure to remember.

    I've enjoyed your posts as well. Creative, to say the least.

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  57. Maragon said: "However, just because you've called me ugly in a roundabout way based on one 4 year old picture off of Frank Waltons blog doesn't mean you wouldn't stalk me"

    Oh that's right, I forgot, women look better with age :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  58. That was uncalled for Sye, you really need to leave.

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  59. "Oh that's right, I forgot, women look better with age :-D"

    Says the 44 year old, balding, single guy.

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  60. Don't worry sorcerer, Sye's just showing us how loving and accepting christians are.

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  62. Sye TenB said...
    Maragon said: "Says the 44 year old, balding, single guy."

    Well, if I wanted to settle, like your fiancee, I could be married tomorrow. :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye



    Watch your tongue here, troll.

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  63. Ha ha. Just wanted to do that.

    DELETE BUTTON, ZAPS TROLLS DEAD.

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  64. "Well, if I wanted to settle, like your fiancee, I could be married tomorrow. :-D"

    I'm glad that you've run out of rational arguments and you're now trying to hurt my feelings with ad hominem attacks.

    Do you honestly think I care about your opinions regarding my personal appearance? Really? Really?

    Suffice to say, I'm better looking than you, sweetie.

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  65. Sye sez:

    Well, if I wanted to settle, like your fiancee, I could be married tomorrow. :-D

    Remember, folks...this is the "godly" one here.

    What a fscking joke you are, Sye. Your magical sky daddy is very disappointed in you.

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  66. Maragon sez to Sye:

    I'm glad that you've run out of rational arguments...

    "Run out"? That would imply that Sye actually had some rational arguments at some point. I have seen ZERO evidence to support that supposition.

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  67. Ps. I think Sye has reached Troll status here.

    If anybody is interested, I've talked to Mac about banning somebody. Of course, we don't want this to be like Rays blog...

    but Mac, if you're interested, I do believe we all agree Sye has reached Troll status.

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  68. Just pity him guys.

    He's so far gone off the path of rational discourse that his points now consist of, "oh yeah, well you're ugly." Even if I were ugly, that wouldn't change the fact that I've got more education and I logic'd your ass off in the other thread.

    He doesn't deserve our time or our posts - just our pity.

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  69. Oh. I agree. He does nothing but ruin threads.

    Like I've said, TROLL.

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  70. R.S., I honestly wouldn't ban him...Sye would *love* to be a martyr, and would doubtless waste no time bragging about his martyrdom on "Atheist Central".

    Banning him implies that he's important. He's not.

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  71. Maragon said: ”He's so far gone off the path of rational discourse that his points now consist of, "oh yeah, well you're ugly."

    Well then I guess you went off the path yesterday at 9:36 PM in that other thread:

    Wow, I'm shocked - a crazy, ugly fundie like you? Still single?

    You make this waaaaaaaaaay to easy Meagan.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  72. You're right about the martyrdom thing. He'll whine.

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  73. I agree with Trip.

    Don't ban him, and certainly don't do so for my sake.

    Men like Sye are terrified of intelligent women and will use whatever insult or dirty tactic to put us 'in our place.'

    He doesn't bother me in the slightest, I'll simply start ignoring him and encourage others to do the same.

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  74. Tripmaster makes a good point too....ahhhh I don't know what to do. can't....make.....decision....

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  75. Sye, nothing is easy against you. There is no argument. It's like talking to a wall, or a repeating record.

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  76. Hey, good idea. give Sye Troll status, yet don't ban him. But unless he actually gives out something useful, it's not okay. And ignoring him is greatly encouraged.

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  78. Not even a nice try, sye:

    http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/how-do-christians-account-for.php

    Those verses only have a very little to do with the physcial world; they do nothing to show that biblegod came up with the laws of logic. It's just more assertions that biblegod came up with them.

    None of the laws of logic are described there. If biblegod can't even enumerate or describe the laws of logic, what makes you think that he's the basis for them?


    Also, you've not accounted for the contradictory way your biblegod behaves morally.


    What have you got, other than just raw assertions?

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  79. RS,

    I think that's the best choice, it's just some of the stuff he says is so crazy it's hard to ignore.

    Congrats Sye you're the new Terry

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  80. Actually, Sye, RS and Maragon both quoted it before I did. There's that attention to detail I've come to expect from the Fundies.

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  81. Sye TenB said...
    Oh, by the way, tripmaster, thanks for reposting the post that Daniel deleted :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye


    ZAP! Incorrect again. I quoted you.

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  82. Reynold sez:

    None of the laws of logic are described there. If biblegod can't even enumerate or describe the laws of logic, what makes you think that he's the basis for them?

    Well said, Reynold. I also think it's amusing how according to Sye, God is the source of logic, and yet the Bible contains numerous factual inaccuracies and internal inconsistencies. Sye's response to me was to ask why factual errors and internal inconsistencies in reasoning are not allowed in my worldview.

    You can't make up crazy like this.

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  83. Tripmaster Monkey said: "Actually, Sye, RS and Maragon both quoted it before I did. There's that attention to detail I've come to expect from the Fundies."

    What? I can't thank who I want? :-D Never said you did it first.

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  85. I've got a friend from BC who's flying in to see the Nine Inch Nails concert with me in early August.

    Because of this, I will be spending time with him and probably won't be posting very much in the next 2-3 weeks. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up.

    If I were you guys, I'd ignore the troll. It's never said anything of any real value - I doubt it's about to start now.

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  86. Sye TenB said...
    Tripmaster Monkey said: "I also think it's amusing how according to Sye, God is the source of logic, and yet the Bible contains numerous factual inaccuracies and internal inconsistencies."

    Which I denied.

    "Sye's response to me was to ask why factual errors and internal inconsistencies in reasoning are not allowed in my worldview."

    Which you did not, and cannot answer.

    Cheers,

    Sye


    Whatever.

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  87. Yeah. Maragon, after tonight, I wont be posting much either.

    Nice, the NINs are awesome.

    I think it should be a rule...

    NO FEEDING TROLLS.

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  89. Yes, Sye, I delete posts that are given by trolls.

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  90. Not all of them, mind you, only those that don't make sense.

    Well, actually...The ones I bloody feel like deleting.

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  91. Maragon said: "Because of this, I will be spending time with him and probably won't be posting very much in the next 2-3 weeks. Just wanted to give you guys a heads up."

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, ya, that's the reason!

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  92. Sye, you hold 100 percent knowledge that it's not?

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  93. @ Maragon,

    NIN? I'm jealous.

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  94. The Ranting Student said: "Not all of them, mind you, only those that don't make sense."

    Then why'd you repost it?

    "Well, actually...The ones I bloody feel like deleting."

    Ah :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  95. Sye sez:

    Which I denied.

    Deny it all you like. It doesn't make it any less true.

    Which you did not, and cannot answer.

    Any answer to that ludicrous question would be pointless, since (as I have already told you) the fact that you even have to ask that question means your are either too stupid or too obstinate to recognize the fundamentals of logic,and without them, there's no point wasting any more time on you.

    Now, I know you're going to push ahead anyway and try to make the claim that those rules of logic come direct from your magical sky daddy, but without some sort of evidence for this, that's nothing but an unfounded assumption. You might think that makes an argument, but it doesn't. It just makes you another sad Fundie troll.

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  96. OT, I'd just like to verify that NIN rocks. c^_^É”

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  97. Sye, just know that after this, I'll never really speak to you again.

    It'll be like...well...a cat chasing it's tail. I've said it before...Ha ha ha.

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  98. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, ya, that's the reason!"

    Want to see my tickets?

    And Sye, you haven't bothered to say anything relevant in the other thread in about a day and a half. You can't explain why one needs to be absolutely certain to postulate relevant theories and you ignore that said 100% certainty goes against everything science is based on. Falsification depends upon the fact that we are NOT EVER 100% certain. You can't refute random numbers and you haven't explained to us how you know you MUST BE CERTAIN about something things(ie the uniformity of nature) but we're allowed to be less than 100% certain about others(ie, whether Sye will ever convince anyone to marry him).
    You can't even explain how you know FOR CERTAIN that your god will keep the promise you claim he made to you about keeping nature uniform.

    You've now abandoned that thread completely to comment on my looks and generally act like an ass.

    Looks aside, I can out think you pal, and everyone here knows it.


    Point of contention; guys, if I'm ever a 44 year old single person who spends all night calling people ugly on the internet and threatening to beat people up for thinking differently than me - please put me out of my misery.

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  99. Tripmaster Monkey said: "Any answer to that ludicrous question would be pointless"

    By what standard of logic is my question ludicrous, how do you account for that standard, and why does that standard necessarily apply to my argument.

    Resume ducking.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  100. My standard Sye.
    by my standard you're crazy.
    And I've recieved it through divine revelation.

    And since you don't know everything, well, you can't say I'm wrong.

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  101. The Skeptical Sorcerer said...

    @ Maragon,

    NIN? I'm jealous.

    Yeah, I'm super excited, I've been a fan for years, but this'll be my first concert.

    Have you heard 'The Slip'? If not you can DL it for free on their site.

    PS - Trent Reznor is fucking hot. ^_-

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  102. Maragon,

    WATCH HBKS!!!!

    ON MY BLOGS AND WEBSITE!!!

    HBKS1.blogspot!!

    Ciao

    Ranting

    Not praying for ya'! ;)

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  103. Sye sez:

    By what standard of logic is my question ludicrous, how do you account for that standard, and why does that standard necessarily apply to my argument.

    Thanks for confirming your idiocy, Sye. Appreciate it!

    Cheers,

    TMM

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  104. Maragon sez (to Sye):

    Looks aside, I can out think you pal, and everyone here knows it.

    Maragon, you're certainly a sharp cookie, but in all honesty, my beagle could outthink Sye. c^_^É”

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  105. @ Maragon,

    I haven't been keeping up to date with nin so I haven't heard "the slip", I think my favourite song is "closer".

    *runs off to download nin*--thanks for that :-)

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  106. NIN?

    Nazis in Nigeria?!

    YOU GUYS ARE DEMENTED! REPENT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!

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  107. Maragon said: Want to see my tickets?”

    Yes, I’d love to see the tickets to your 2-3 week concert :-D

    Falsification depends upon the fact that we are NOT EVER 100% certain.

    You still don’t get it Meagan. When you say “NOT EVER” you are saying that it is 100% impossible to be 100% certain of anything. My dear, you need the break.

    ”You've now abandoned that thread completely to comment on my looks and generally act like an ass.”

    What’s good for the duckling…. (or perhaps you are forgetting about your post on the other thread from yesterday at 9:26 PM :-D ) Selective memory. Your fiancee should watch out for that.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  108. You're very welcome, Sorcerer.

    Yeah, I love Closer too, but I think my favourite song would have to be "We're in this Together."

    Enjoy The Slip, it's a great listen, Lights in the Sky is amazing.

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  109. ....and yes Trent is hot

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  110. did someone hear something?
    not me.

    REPENT!

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  111. The Ranting Student said: "My standard Sye.
    by my standard you're crazy.
    And I've recieved it through divine revelation."


    Well, at least you've abandoned atheism, now let's talk about that revelation. Is there an objective source where we can confirm it, or is it just a subjective revelation?

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  112. This reminds me...

    a while back I was at a mercyme concert. I was handing out tracts and everyone loved me. then the lead singer called my up to co-sing. I agreed. then i said, "wont it be cool when we can sing for jesus? In front of him?" he agreed.

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  113. Oh...there...I heard it again...
    oh well...must be the wind.

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  114. Poor Sye has real reading comprehension problems, doesn't he?

    Did anyone else think that I was going to a 3 week concert?

    "Yes, I’d love to see the tickets to your 2-3 week concert :-D"

    Or did you all get the part where I had a friend coming from across the country to visit me AND go to a concert?

    "You still don’t get it Meagan. When you say “NOT EVER” you are saying that it is 100% impossible to be 100% certain of anything. My dear, you need the break."

    Science states that it is 100% impossible to be 100% certain. Hence falsifiability. And no, we're not 100% sure about that either. But you still haven't ever explained why we need to be 100% certain as opposed to just 99.9% in order to posit rational theories - and I doubt you ever will.

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  115. MARAGON, don't talk to the "wind"...

    because the wind has nothing to say! :D

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  116. Maragon,

    "Closer" and "Head Like a Hole" are my favorite NIN songs...I used to work off a lot of calories dancing to those in the clubs when they came out.

    (Oops...just dated myself...:P )

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  117. "head like a hole" is ridiculously awesome too.

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  118. YOU HEATHENS!

    NIN? FROM THE DEBIL!!!!

    REPENT BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!

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  119. See, you guys are totally old school NiN.

    I ended up like listening to them backwards. I heard the With Teeth album before The Downward Spiral.

    But honestly, there's not many NiN songs I don't like. Trent seems to have written something about everything. =)

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  120. RS,

    I think there is some confusion here. A balding, middle-aged man is on the computer trying to get a "students" information for a meeting...does he realize that RS is an adult and not a young boy? Sye, if you want to get on Dateline, you are barking up the wrong tree.

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  121. "bow down before the one you serve you're going to get what you deserve"

    See RS NIN is totally christian

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  122. Maybe Sye wanted to be a priest before? Perhaps.
    too bad...Sye, if you want kids get on myspace.

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  123. Maragon said: "Science states that it is 100% impossible to be 100% certain. Hence falsifiability. And no, we're not 100% sure about that either"

    So let me see if I got this straight: It is 100% impossible to be 100% certain but you're not 100% certain of that??? Um, doesn't that mean that it's not 100% impossible???

    Better take 4 weeks :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  124. maragon,

    I saw NIN last year in concert, it was fantastic! Although, Johnny Cash really stole Hurt. Reznor introduced the song as "the song that used to be mine".

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  125. Yeah, Clos, he does.

    Oh well...I can't hear him anymore.

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  126. "My whole existence is flawed. You get me closer to God..."

    Rawr.

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  128. Guys!!! didn't you read my MERCYME story!!!

    How about singing "I CAN SING OF YOUR LOVE FOREVER, I CAN SING OF YOUR LOVE FOREVER!!!"

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  129. ""bow down before the one you serve you're going to get what you deserve"

    See RS NIN is totally christian"

    Especially since churches really worship money anyways...I guess this could be a church song.

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  130. Clostridiophile said...

    maragon,

    I saw NIN last year in concert, it was fantastic! Although, Johnny Cash really stole Hurt. Reznor introduced the song as "the song that used to be mine".

    Yeah, I do like Johnny Cash's rendition alot - he really took it and owned it.

    Which tour did you see? Year Zero?

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  131. did i tell you about the mercyme concert?

    oh and...REPENT...and uhh, HBKS1.blogspot

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  132. Ha! Speaking of church songs and NIN...I went to Catholic school, and we used to have mass on Fridays. My friend played piano and during communion he would play popular songs in place of church songs...we would piss our pants laughing, and the teachers had no idea. One time he played Tool's Message to Harry Handback, if you are not familiar with the lyrics...not the most conventional church hymn. I usually had tears running down my face in church...my friend was such an awesome asshole!

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  133. Seeing as this has turned into the greatest NiN lyrics of all time thread, I submit;

    "My lips may promise but my heart is a whore."

    Damnit I love the way that man writes.

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  134. Heh...


    As long as we're quoting NIN lyrics...


    You can have my absence of faith.
    You can have my everything.

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  135. Nice story clos.
    Check mine out...

    I PRAYED TO JEBUZ AND HE RESTORED ME.

    Just kidding. When I used to go to Church, it lasted 4 hours. 2 were just worship.

    HELL. THAT'S HELL.

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  136. Ok, let me see if I got this straight: ""Science states that it is 100% impossible to be 100% certain. Hence falsifiability. And no, we're not 100% sure about that either."

    Um doesn't that mean that it's not 100% impossible?

    (Alright, try to squirm out of that one :-D )(I suppose you'll deny saying that too)(Maybe RS will delete it for you)(If you don't) ;-D

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  137. WHY CANT THE WIND GET A CLUE! WE LIKE IT WARM HERE.

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  138. OMG RS 4 hours!!!!! I'm so so sorry you had to go through that.

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  139. ""Which tour did you see? Year Zero?"

    A shit, I don't remember, I would have to look. Reznor looks like he is on roids though, motherfucker is pumping some iron."

    Yeah, he sure did turn things around. He stopped shooting heroin and started exercising. I feel kind of guilty saying that I think he was hotter before.

    Year Zero was the last tour, I believe.

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  140. Sye, give it up. You're out of your depth.

    I'm embarrassed for you at this point.

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  141. Me too. And we had 3 hour get-together service on fridays.
    and ultimate bible studies for 2 hours wednesdays.

    HELL!

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  142. hot Trent lyrics > cold wind

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  143. Help me, I broke apart my insides.
    Help me, I've got no soul to sell.


    Threads about NiN are now the best threads.

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  144. tripmaster, don't feel bad for the wind. it cant help it.

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  145. Maragon sez:

    I feel kind of guilty saying that I think he was hotter before.

    Girls do go for the tortured artist routine... ;)

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  146. clos
    yes. it should.

    NIN...I'm going to go download some more.

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  147. "Yeah, he sure did turn things around. He stopped shooting heroin and started exercising. I feel kind of guilty saying that I think he was hotter before.

    Year Zero was the last tour, I believe."

    That's interesting...is it the muscles? Seems like alot of women like leaner guys. My cousin is a bodybuilder and hasn't dated a girl in like 2 years. He tells me he is going to add 20 lbs of muscle..I said, "It's your sex-life".

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  148. "Sye, give it up. You're out of your depth.

    I'm embarrassed for you at this point."

    I think we need to start considering whether he is capable of stopping of his own volition.

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  149. I MEAN NO!
    MERCYME AND CHRISTIAN STATIONS FOR ME!

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  150. NEW RULE.
    Next time Sye rolls around, we just pick up a random conversation?

    How 'bout it?

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  151. Sounds like a good rule


    "Help me tear down my reason, help me its' your sex I can smell
    Help me you make me perfect, help me become somebody else"

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  152. "That's interesting...is it the muscles? Seems like alot of women like leaner guys. My cousin is a bodybuilder and hasn't dated a girl in like 2 years. He tells me he is going to add 20 lbs of muscle..I said, "It's your sex-life"."

    It totally is the muscles. I've dated a few body builder types, seeing as I'm a bit of a gymwhore myself, but I largely prefer tall, thin guys. I don't know what it is. And besides all of that, a smart guy who can hold an interesting conversation and make you laugh is 100 times better than a beefcake with a washboard stomach.



    And yeah, Trip, the tortured artist bit - that's what did it for alot of chicks, I think. Trent was so...vulnerable. And dirty.

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  153. Maragon said: "Sye, give it up. You're out of your depth."

    I have no problem letting the world (or the very few people who visit this blog) see for themselves who is out of their depth. Please don't delete YOUR posts.

    Thanks for this Meagan!

    Well folks, I think I'll call it a night. It's been fun :-D

    If I crossed the line, I apologize (not that I expect the same from any of you, but alas :-)

    I do not envy you your peaceless lives. Can't imagine what an eternity far worse than that would be like.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  154. Sye,

    Jesus H. Christ, you don't have magical Jesus superpowers that differ from the rest of us. Shut the fuck up already. You lost this debate like four months ago on Ray's blog and you keep pretending that you aren't refuted every day. Absolute this and absolute that, how do you know this, and how are you certain...you must just be really starved for attention. Do we complete you?

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  155. Who else is listening to Closer right now?

    I can't be the only one. =P

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  156. No NIN for me right now...I'm watching South Park...the "Fighting around the world with Russel Crow" episode.

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  157. I might.

    HEY GUYS THE WIND'S CALMING DOWN!

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  158. Clostridiophile said...

    No NIN for me right now...I'm watching South Park...the "Fighting around the world with Russel Crow" episode.

    HA! Russel Crowe and Tugger?

    That's a great one.

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  159. Thanks for making my thread great again.

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  160. "HA! Russel Crowe and Tugger?

    That's a great one."

    Fightin round tha world!!!! What a great show, critter christmas is another good one!

    Gotta run, talk with you all later! RS, keep your chin up, hope to see you around here!! maragon, you seem like a really cool chick!

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  161. Sye sez:

    Maragon said: "Sye, give it up. You're out of your depth."


    Uh, no, Sye...I said that, not Maragon. There's that remarkable Fundie attention to detail again. No wonder you guys make such great scientists.

    Seriously, are you really this stupid, or are you just pretending you are, in the desperate hope that someone will actually respond to you?

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  163. Creationists are nothing to laugh about-
    Oh wait, yes they are.

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  164. oh how does that Russel Crow song go again? Something about "he beats up his producers and he beats up his fans..." I can't remember

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  165. Tripmaster Monkey said: "Uh, no, Sye...I said that, not Maragon."

    Uh, scroll up, she repeated it.

    (Better do it, before it get's deleted).

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  166. who left the window open?

    My fave family guy character is Stewie, but everyone says that so I feel really unoriginal :(

    Anyone else have a fave character?

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  167. I like Stewie, though I heard he's gay...or...something...

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  168. Sye sez:

    Uh, scroll up, she repeated it.

    Uh, she was quoting me, you moron.

    Please, keep it up. Your amentia is quickly becoming legend.

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  169. nothing wrong with being gay. just that...the creators cant decide...

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  170. Wait. I think they want Stewi gay...but they're playing with the idea.

    I don't mind if he is. More funny scenarios.

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  171. Yeah I think Stewie is gay, but sometimes be likes girls, maybe he's bi??

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  172. Sorcerer sez:

    oh how does that Russel Crow song go again? Something about "he beats up his producers and he beats up his fans..." I can't remember


    Here you go, Sorcerer:


    Born in New Zealand in sixty-four
    A hot-headed actor named Russell Crowe
    He loves to act but he loves one thing more
    Fightin' Round The World

    He fights his directors and he fights his fans
    It's a problem no one understands
    If there's two things he loves it's fighting and
    Fightin' Round The World

    Makin' movies, makin' music and
    Fight-in' Round The World!
    Russell Crowe!

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  173. Thanks tripmaster :)

    That one is going to be in my head for a while, in a good way.

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  174. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewie_griffin

    WIKIPEDIA saves the day again...

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  175. Tripmaster Monkey said: "Uh, she was quoting me, you moron"

    Uh, finish the sentence...she was quoting you when she said it.

    Unless of course you wish to deny that she said it, which would not surpise me one bit.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  176. So family guy is trying to confuse us......

    I have to agree that it gives the writers more flexibility cause now Stewie can have strange relationships with both guys and girls.

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  177. Sye sez:

    Uh, finish the sentence...she was quoting you when she said it.

    Uh, figure out the difference between someone saying something to you and someone quoting someone else saying something to you.

    Honestly...your freaking elementary school should have equipped you for this.

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  178. TripMaster Monkey said...

    Isn't it sad how he lacks basic reading comprehension?

    And didn't he say he was leaving like an hour ago?

    Poor man, has nothing to do other than harass people on the internet.

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  179. BTW, The South Park on right now is the "Fantastic Easter Special" episode. c^_^É”

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  180. Maragon sez:

    And didn't he say he was leaving like an hour ago?

    OMG! You're right! From his 9:52 PM post:

    Well folks, I think I'll call it a night. It's been fun :-D

    Oh dear! Sye lied!

    That's the Ninth Commandment, Sye! You better get right with God! What if a Buick Skylark fell out of the sky and crushed you right now??? Why, with that mortal sin on your soul, you'd go to Hell!

    Hurry, Sye! Before it's too late!

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  181. Man, I wish I were a Christian.

    That way I could lie and steal and generally act like a dick to people - all while pretending that ny actions were okay; because I'm saved by my belief in jesus.

    Must be nice to have a 'get out of acting like a moral human free' card, huh?

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  182. Tripmaster Monkey said: "Oh dear! Sye lied!"

    I suppose I really shouldn't expect you to understand what the word think means. I did not lie. I said I think I'll call it a night, and I simply changed my mind. Nice try though :-D

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  183. Maragon said: "Must be nice to have a 'get out of acting like a moral human free' card, huh?"

    Meagan, I know what I am, and it is wonderful to be forgiven.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  184. I'm listening to head like a hole right now and if I hadn't had that sex change Terry accused me of a while back I'd so be getting a boner , but maybe that's too much info.

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  185. "Meagan, I know what I am, and it is wonderful to be forgiven."

    Yeah, it must be wonderful to be able to believe that you can do absolutely anything to other people - including steal, lie, rape and murder - and still receive eternal paradise.

    What a convenient dogma.

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  186. Maragon said: "Yeah, it must be wonderful to be able to believe that you can do absolutely anything to other people - including steal, lie, rape and murder - and still receive eternal paradise. What a convenient dogma."

    Funny (read sad) thing is, is that none of those things are 'wrong' in the atheist dogma. They may be painful, unpleasant, or even against your personal preference, but without an absolute standard, they can't be 'wrong.' Nice worldview.

    Cheers,

    Sye

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  187. "I'm listening to head like a hole right now and if I hadn't had that sex change Terry accused me of a while back I'd so be getting a boner , but maybe that's too much info."

    I know so many guys who are like, "I'd go gay for Trent Reznor."

    So, boners for Trent are probably pretty common.

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  188. "Funny (read sad) thing is, is that none of those things are 'wrong' in the atheist dogma. They may be painful, unpleasant, or even against your personal preference, but without an absolute standard, they can't be 'wrong.' Nice worldview."

    Secular Humanism. Educate yourself.

    So, what's worse, your assertion that my worldview can't find these things 'wrong'(which is false) - or the fact that your religion excuses these things?

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  189. Ahem
    So...NIN...Best music video?

    damn the gust is blowing

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  190. "boners for Trent"

    Sounds like a good name for a charity or some cause hehehe

    OK now I'm listening to tool. I dedicate this one to Sye. "choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you"

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  191. "So...NIN...Best music video?"

    The Perfect Drug. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=l0s5UOVsMDg

    Or Into the Void.
    http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=VqgggIMK7Ic

    Hawt.

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