tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-41409179037223883482024-03-13T23:13:06.005-05:00The Raytractors - Ray Comfort's DetractorsHere's a place to critique Ray Comfort without being subject to his rules of censorship. We are a community of mostly atheists and agnostics, but theists are welcome to join.
Sign up by emailing MacGyver Jr. - See his profile.MacGyver Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02307024564664964571noreply@blogger.comBlogger1129125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-89492120962621460792009-01-05T15:50:00.002-06:002009-01-05T15:53:20.607-06:00Goodbye, RayTo Mr Ray Comfort<br /> From the entire Raytractors community<br /><br />Originally started as a means to mobilise and bring together those who oppose the misinformation, dishonesty and wilful ignorance promoted by your good self, this group very quickly grew into a large and diverse community. Composed of individuals with no common thread other than their response to you, they grew exponentially, attracting like-minded and not-so-like-minded people from across the net.<br /><br />But all things must come to an end...<br /><br />Their time had come. As the blog died, remaining only as a fossil testament to what once was, the individuals who made up this community walked away from the one who inspired them, who caused their community to exist in the first place. As time went on, they found that they could not confine their criticism to one man: the sheer irrationality that he embodied was not his alone. Their very name, the banner they went under, was limiting them.<br /><br />And so, they changed. Their identity could no longer support who and what they were, so they adapted, evolving into something different at a glance but the same at heart. They built a new environment more conductive to discussion and communication than the blog they had for so long run in tandem to your own, and they named themselves anew, that all who saw them would see and understand that they were not the mere detractors of one purveyor of lies, but the opponents of all those who would use misinformation, pseudoscience and intellectual dishonesty to promote bigotry and hate amongst those who are unable to establish truth for themselves.<br /><br />They drafted a letter, in third person and in past tense because it sounded impressive and important, and they sent it to the one who had brought them together in the first place. In this document, they announced their newfound independence, and wished Mr Comfort the best in the future. Although they would continue to read and comment on the words uttered by this one, they no longer defined themselves by him, and they would exist as an entity separate from him. They again extended the same invitation to him and his followers that they had previously: if any of you wish for an honest and free exchange of ideas and opinions, without the censorship, format and rules designed to stifle inquiry and prevent individuals from providing evidence and support for their opinions, then you are welcome to join us at the new venue, which you can access from the old BlogSpot. You will be welcomed with open arms by those who used to be the Raytractors.<br /><br />And so, in a final act of dramatic timing, they signed off with the name they had chosen for themselves, their new identity, which identified them not as your detractors... but as something more.<br /><br />Goodbye Ray. And thank you for bringing us together.<br /><br />SMRT.<br />Skeptical Minds and Rational Thinkers.<br /><a href="http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/index.php">http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb/index.php</a>Quasarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04219765882891909223noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-21435761538694583432008-12-20T16:59:00.003-06:002008-12-20T17:14:15.178-06:00TechnovikingA fittingly strange and silly end to the Raytractors, a blog about a strange and silly man.<br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/_1nzEFMjkI4&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/_1nzEFMjkI4&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>Geoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12440039369718675189noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-42852971618684274102008-12-19T04:54:00.000-06:002008-12-19T04:55:28.669-06:00This is the EndAMF.TJHhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10570384567898770658noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-3744702067897866862008-12-17T21:25:00.003-06:002008-12-17T21:31:04.289-06:00Post...and RUN!!!<div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://www.intermixi.com/images/jokermixi2.jpg"><img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 468px; height: 345px;" src="http://www.intermixi.com/images/jokermixi2.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="color: rgb(51, 255, 51); font-weight: bold;">And here we go....</span></span><br /></div><br /><br />I'm going to post this and move as fast as I can so that I avoid the stampede. I give you the 1st part...<br /><br />Our New Forum:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.wearesmrt.com/bb">www.wearesmrt.com/bb</a><span class="fullpost"></span>MacGyver Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02307024564664964571noreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-36480931488908518972008-12-17T20:10:00.002-06:002008-12-17T20:17:33.337-06:00Sex, Drugs, & Rock 'n' Roll<strong>Re: <em>Sex, Drugs, & Rock 'n' Roll</em></strong><br /><br />Would you agree that Christianity has nothing intelligent to say about any of these three important topics?<br /><br />Do any other atheists (or even non-fundamentalists) wish to agree with me also that in addition to the rationality, a side benefit of not being religiously committed is that you can have a more sane, balanced, empirical understanding of these three topics?Geoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12440039369718675189noreply@blogger.com20tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-41349797886918567142008-12-17T17:11:00.005-06:002008-12-17T20:15:35.577-06:00<span class="Apple-style-span" style=" ;font-family:'Times New Roman';"><div style="border-top-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-style: initial; border-color: initial; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 3px; padding-right: 3px; padding-bottom: 3px; padding-left: 3px; width: auto; font: normal normal normal 100%/normal Georgia, serif; text-align: left; "><div><i>Intro</i></div><div><br /></div>"A painting must have a painter!" <div><br /></div><div>The voice peeled out across cyberspace. It was harshened by a New Zealand twang, but also had the optimistic lilt of an unmolested choir-boy.<div><br /></div><div>I heard the words flow from the screen. He must be a Poe, I thought, but the look on his face didn't seem to say so. It <i>was</i> hard to tell though - that same naive face was obscured by the kind of moustache that had filtered many a cup of holy sacrament.</div><div><br /></div><div>That mo' spoke with wisdom, like an old-timer at a bar who comments on the game and how he could have played football, if only he hadn't been illegally tripped over in the 14Ds by Charlie McPhee.</div><div><br /></div><div>He was the only man I heard of who openly admitted to thinking a banana proved an entire religion. His books came forth like a colony of Streptococcae, numerous, mildly offensive and almost exact replicas.<br /></div><div><br /></div><div>He was Ray and he was not ashamed.</div></div></div></span>Vagonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05758734418127314111noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-69041530527630889032008-12-17T12:14:00.003-06:002008-12-17T12:26:15.922-06:00Draft SMRT forum rules<p>After a flurry of activity this morning, we've come up with a <b>draft</b> of the forum rules. I've seperated the suggestions into <b>Rules</b> and <b>Values</b>. The former being "Follow these or else", the latter being "Please respect these values - they encourage healthy debate".<br /><br /><br />Absolute minimum:<br /><br />RULES<br /><ul><li>No Trolling (need to define this)</li><br /><li>Embedded pics/videos should be tasteful</li><br /><li>Warnings will be handed out for the breaking of Rules or the habitual violation of Values. After accruing 3 warnings, this may (at the discretion of the Moderators) subject the user to {insert something nasty here}.</li><br /></ul><br /><br /><br /><br />The following values we could probably stick at the top of the forums, as a "Read This First" or something<br /><br />VALUES<br /><ul><li>No Preaching (need to define this)</li><br /><li>Cite your sources as often as possible</li><br /><li>Be civil, but creative cursing can be an asset</li><br /><li>No mention of the missing "a" in SMRT</li><br /><li>Be rational</li><br /><li>Be open-minded / wear a thick skin</li><br /><li>Have fun</li><br /><li>The forums are intended to be self-policing and democratic</li><br /><li>Flagging posts shouldn't be done to harass other people</li><br /></ul><br /><br /><p>Not restrictive enough? Something missing?</p><p>Let us know what you think...</p>Whatevermanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14458601080799278850noreply@blogger.com41tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-30311426869719163532008-12-17T09:48:00.004-06:002008-12-17T10:14:00.185-06:00I need a guinea pigAnyone other than WEM who is online right now and wants to help me test the functionality of some things on the forum, please shoot me a quick email.<br /><br />nonmagic@gmail.com<br /><br />**Not being a jerk to WEM, I just need someone who had no mod privileges so they can tell me if flagging posts is possible, ect. In other words, help me test this interface.<br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(204, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">EDIT: I HAVE MY 2 VICTIMS!!! THANKS GUYS!!</span>nonmagichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-88690125154064053392008-12-17T00:11:00.003-06:002008-12-17T00:28:08.211-06:00Another massive Presupositionalist thread!!We all know the monster of argumentation that is Christian presuppositionalism. <a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2008/12/battle-of-wits.html">This thread is over a thousand posts.</a><br />If you don't want to read it, the participants were kind enough to summarise their positions in verse and rhyme.<br /><br />Sye TenB:<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">The atheist claims he can know</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">But when asked how this is so</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">His response is so dense</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">For he claims 'reason and sense'</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Whose validity he cannot show.</span><br /><dl id="comments-block"><dt class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c7318452549933117452"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/08371944082656315654" rel="nofollow">Dani' El</a></dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c7318452549933117452">Sye was a saint who was true</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c7318452549933117452">Who said to the blind "We see blue"</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c7318452549933117452">They presupposed no one could</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c7318452549933117452">Since to see was not good</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c7318452549933117452">As it came from a Bible worldview</dt><dd class="comment-body"> <br /></dd></dl><br /><a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/18204999524677028033" rel="nofollow">Andrew Louis</a><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">There once was a man named Sye</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Who was really an irrational guy</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">He began with proof</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Was withdraw and aloof</span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">And it turned out it all was a big lie</span><br /><br /><dl id="comments-block"><dd class="comment-footer"><span class="comment-timestamp"><a href="http://debunkingatheists.blogspot.com/2008/12/battle-of-wits.html?showComment=1229331720000#c6664425088389291035" title="comment permalink"><br /></a><span class="item-control blog-admin pid-2068582914"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/delete-comment.g?blogID=7771612431511732960&postID=6664425088389291035" title="Delete Comment"> </a> </span> </span> </dd><dt class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c9175043265945332883"> <a name="c9175043265945332883"></a> <a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/05619443242785717982" rel="nofollow">Type Display Name Here</a></dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c9175043265945332883">Sye once had a delusion,</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c9175043265945332883">He wanted to spread his confusion,</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c9175043265945332883">He posted a lot,</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c9175043265945332883">but his claims were shot,</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c9175043265945332883">'Cos the premise contained the conclusion.</dt></dl><dl id="comments-block"><dt class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c6426491822335100472"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/01695741977946935771" rel="nofollow">zilch</a> </dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c6426491822335100472">There once was a Christian named Sye</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c6426491822335100472">Who fought for his Guy in the Sky</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c6426491822335100472">But the godless were bored, 'cause</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c6426491822335100472">his Sword of the Lord was</dt><dt style="font-style: italic;" class="comment-author blogger-comment-icon" id="c6426491822335100472">a presuppositional lie.</dt><dd class="comment-body"><br /></dd></dl><span class="fullpost"></span>Obsidianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07492809766606634642noreply@blogger.com33tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-86105289270846966902008-12-17T00:08:00.001-06:002008-12-17T00:10:23.935-06:00The Real AnthemCorey Taylor (of Slipknot and StoneSour) and the celloists of Apocalyptica<br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/k491GjjFr7A&hl=en&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/k491GjjFr7A&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><span class="fullpost"></span>Obsidianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07492809766606634642noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-10500826764456393902008-12-16T23:51:00.001-06:002008-12-16T23:53:13.651-06:00<a href="http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/12/bottom-line_16.html">This post from Ray </a>had me thinking about a saying girls in my high school used to say...<br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/821/girlthingc0yi.gif"><img style="margin: 0pt 10px 10px 0pt; float: left; cursor: pointer; width: 600px; height: 300px;" src="http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/821/girlthingc0yi.gif" alt="" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><span class="fullpost"><br /></span>Yaegerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08639306782444621435noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-89399950313885966342008-12-16T20:15:00.003-06:002008-12-16T21:23:04.069-06:00Raytractors please readMac has got our new place pretty much ready to go! <span style="font-weight: bold;">(THANK YOU MAC!!!)</span> We need to do something before everyone goes rushing in, though.<br /><br />We gotta come up with some rules.<br /><br />WEM and myself are the mods as of right now and we need your feedback on this!!! <br /><br />Please give this some thought and post your suggestions here so that we can refine the suggestions into something we can work with and get this train on track.<br /><br />Thanks to <span style="font-style: italic;">everyone</span> for their input!!<br /><br />EDIT: This isn't the whole enchilada, just the forum portion... - MacGyver Jrnonmagichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.com54tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-71063572913316690292008-12-16T19:41:00.002-06:002008-12-16T20:10:29.751-06:00For atheists and theists alike who want to better understand evolutionI just got my monthly copy of Scientific American in the mail. This one is a special issue about evolution that has this on the cover:<br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">Evolution at work: How doctors, police and others use it on their job</span><br /><br /><span style="font-weight:bold;">The evolution of evolution: How Darwin's theory survives, thrives, and reshapes the world<br /><br />The future of human evolution<br /><br />Molecular proof of natural selection<br /><br />How life invents complex traits<br /><br />Creationist's Latest Tricks<br /></span><br /><br /><br />Then inside all of this is broken down into different articles. When you browse the index, lets say at the grocery store or <span style="font-style:italic;">*cough* the library where you can read it for free *cough*</span> the articles are not titled the same as the cover states, just so you know. They are still there, just read the descriptions of the articles to find what you are looking for.<br /><br />Also, page 74 has an article entitled 'Four Fallacies of Evolutionary Pop Psychology' that looks interesting.<br /><br />For bonus points mosey on over to SciAm.com and check out the short article entitled <a href="http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=why-everyone-should-learn-evolution"><u>Why Everyone Should Learn the Theory of Evolution</u></a>. Personally, I thought it was so short it was almost more like an extended blurb than an article, but<span style="font-style:italic;"> check out the comments</span>.<br /><br />Here's one:<br /><br /><span style="font-style:italic;">woundeddog2 at 12:32 PM on 12/15/08<br /><br />Romans 1:22<br />Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,<br /><br /></span><br /><br />That's it. As if someone who read the article would say to themselves 'Hey, I never believed the creation story before but I'm convinced now!' Trolls are everywhere.<br /><br /><br />But then there are the more reasonable Christians who leave comments like this:<br /><br /><span style="font-style:italic;">mlyyski at 12:45 PM on 12/15/08<br /><br />The creationist/evolutionist debate is maddening. When I was about 9 years old I was given a Bible, and the books "The World of Science" and "The Sea Around Us". It didn't take me long to come to the conclusion that God created, and science explains creation. I am a Christian who absolutely believes in evolution. The creationists who sat down and dreamed up their theory, though they probably thought they were defending God (another absurd idea), actually did a huge disservice to Christianity. Most disappointing are the science savvy 'intellectuals' who say creationists got it wrong, so God could not be responsible for creation, even though they haven't the slightest clue as to the origion of the universe. In fact, I have yet to see any theory as plausable as a 9 year old's assesment after nearly 50 years, just a lot of stne throwing and name calling on both sides. Mike Lyyski<br /><br /><br /><br /></span><br /><br />After reading that last comment I have a sliver more hope for humanity that tells me maybe one day Christians will at least accept evolution more on the terms that Mr. Lyyski stated. Hey, it's not the whole kit'n caboodle but it's better than what we have now.nonmagichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-77729767837671205882008-12-16T15:14:00.002-06:002008-12-16T15:23:07.343-06:00Back by Popular Demand- Just in time for XmasHELL VAN- STILL HERE<br /><br /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUkLtujl0nWnB1kLuSP5Aq-c-ZC-AqtuvR_eTC_4-WOIg_TTdxs8LaIpVccHqsIeqqhdIy13BtFGk_yoRfJ9XnH42R2zMa_GR3a5u4GEjaBra9rnYpg7DKkQl-sevNclwqXSSYpA4b11U/s1600-h/hellvan3.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5280500024723305682" style="WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 240px" alt="" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUkLtujl0nWnB1kLuSP5Aq-c-ZC-AqtuvR_eTC_4-WOIg_TTdxs8LaIpVccHqsIeqqhdIy13BtFGk_yoRfJ9XnH42R2zMa_GR3a5u4GEjaBra9rnYpg7DKkQl-sevNclwqXSSYpA4b11U/s320/hellvan3.jpg" border="0" /></a><br />Normal American shopping mall<br /><br /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilRF2zG3PUQ019JPfwD9nvcyqd8OmrZrbilULuAQuadILq8oijEzRDsoRqHFbdG5YivQ9O-gcCSk3V6wo-YI5y1XGGVmYOL2BIZmtt0vLZEpP8k9WQV27nrga4jwLDsvPjkS1wyvPJI8E/s1600-h/hellvan2.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5280500020845577058" style="WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 240px" alt="" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEilRF2zG3PUQ019JPfwD9nvcyqd8OmrZrbilULuAQuadILq8oijEzRDsoRqHFbdG5YivQ9O-gcCSk3V6wo-YI5y1XGGVmYOL2BIZmtt0vLZEpP8k9WQV27nrga4jwLDsvPjkS1wyvPJI8E/s320/hellvan2.jpg" border="0" /></a><br />What this means, I have no idea<br /><br /><br /><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMZwiHKTvsD2DvsuLJPN_4xdZUTBa2-zcRRn6p7PwtfN7cDOxzvonrRj4oGj4nDa-xfWtGhXOqS-DSTapvvdFhgC6CdONZA4-YjPXqyhQyqBN4LhLTYWRxxS6Bkgn-qbgU0yCS37pLdSY/s1600-h/hellvan1.jpg"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5280500005310869234" style="WIDTH: 320px; CURSOR: hand; HEIGHT: 240px" alt="" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjMZwiHKTvsD2DvsuLJPN_4xdZUTBa2-zcRRn6p7PwtfN7cDOxzvonrRj4oGj4nDa-xfWtGhXOqS-DSTapvvdFhgC6CdONZA4-YjPXqyhQyqBN4LhLTYWRxxS6Bkgn-qbgU0yCS37pLdSY/s320/hellvan1.jpg" border="0" /></a><br /><br /><div>God hates you and don't forget it. Especially you, Santa Claus.</div><br /><br /><br /><div></div><br /><br /><br /><div></div>Milohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12910886626220609245noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-42148762491642954862008-12-16T13:12:00.004-06:002008-12-16T13:48:56.848-06:00Eric- A Study in AbsurditySometimes in the course of events over at Ray's, certain individuals single themselves out as the most preposterous, absurd, lying pieces of shit, that they must be recognized as such.<br /><br />This recognition goes out to "Eric." He has no profile (not a problem actually) but claims he has a science degree while not having a clue about the definition of a scientific Theory."<br /><br />It has been <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0">explained</span> to him on several occasion in a precise manner. Then, some one used a definition from Wiki, so while totally ignoring all the definitions he has been given, he says, "Wikipedia is not and should ever used as a standard, with a few keystrokes you or I can edit the information without accountability." He thinks he is slyly sidestepping the question by doing that, but of course he is only fooling himself.<br /><br />Eric then uses the dictionary definition for the <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1">colloquial</span> "Theory." It is hilarious the way he so overtly ignores facts that he does not like.<br /><br />As I said, he is a liar because there is no way on earth that someone can hold a degree in science ad not know the definition of a Scientific Theory.<br /><br />I'm going to post the comment he made that proves he is a study in absurdity.<br /><br />"<a onclick="" href="http://www.blogger.com/profile/02324962913018747188" rel="nofollow">Eric</a>" said...<br />Jason said,<br />You're misleadingly distorting the meaning of the word "theory" on purpose, which definitely invalidates your opinion.<br /><br /><br />DJ said,<br />Hello Eric. As you have a degree in a science-related area, then I assume that you are aware of the scientific definition of a theory, namely that one is a "well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the world"(<span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2">wikipedia</span>).<br /><br />Eric says:<br /><span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3">Wikipedia</span> is not and should ever used as a standard, with a few keystrokes you or I can edit the information without accountability. [He thinks he's being cute by sidestepping the statement]<br /><br />Funk and <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4">Wagnalls</span> New standard Dictionary of the English Language c19261.The act or result of looking into or contemplating any object or group of objects, or any event or series of events; beholding ; viewing; speculation.2.Hence: (1)A mental plan or scheme framed to agree with the observed facts and designed as a rational explanation of them. In this sense, customarily understood to be a scheme of explanation which comes nearer to being a law verifiable by all others on the basis of observation and experiment than does a hypothesis. (2)Mere hypothesis or speculation; hence, an individual view; idea; as, the soldier's theory of duty.3.More specif., a systematic generalization, entertained in the development of some one of the positive sciences, as furnishing the most satisfactory <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5">account</span> <span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6">ofr</span> rational explanation of a series or group of its phenomena; an elaborate and well-sustained working hypothesis designed to embrace temporarily, and to further the continued investigation of some particular science or one of its branches.theorize1.To <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7">convince</span> by theorizing. 2.To form or express theories; speculate.<br />December 16, 2008 4:25 AM<br /><br />I must tag on a special mention for Shawn, who <span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8">ignorantly</span> boasts:<br /><br />"Why bother [studying evolution] If I know something to be a lie, why entertain it further? I would be the fool then, and not the evolutionist. Rather, I will remain in ignorance of the subject and avail my mind on the things of God, which are wholesome and pleasant to the soul. This glorious meat is food for my soul and is the light that leads to salvation. That is the only thing my mind must know.<br /><br />They will do anything to create the illusion that their silly beliefs are not going up in the smoke of reason.Froggiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.com32tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-63267756549697967512008-12-16T11:35:00.002-06:002008-12-16T11:38:10.469-06:00The cut and paste hack strikes again...http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/12/charles-darwin-bible-200th-birthday.html<br /><br />Is there no one or nothing that the holy 'tache will not exploit to make a quick buck or two...??<br /><br />M.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-37781662909630552902008-12-16T11:01:00.003-06:002008-12-16T14:01:37.393-06:00Ray and the Onset of Dimensio<span class="fullpost">He's starting to get to him...<br /><br /></span>From '<a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5823596693953871104&postID=1881900894412295997">The Anvil of Eternal Justice</a>' post (sounds like something the Green Lantern would wield)<br /><dl id="comments-block"><dd><p>Someone said...'<span style="font-style: italic;">God is real. He's not going away just because you don't like the thought of God. Suppress the truth all you want, but it doesn't change reality</span>.'<br /><br />And Dimensio - in classic fashion - replied;</p></dd><dd><p>"<span style="font-style: italic;">Please substantiate your assertion with evidence</span>."</p></dd><dd><p>Then Ray loses it and gives Dimensio what for;<br /><br />"<span style="font-style: italic;">Dimensio...your continual "Please substantiate your assertion with evidence" when it comes to the existence of God, confirms the truth of Psalm 14:1. It is scientifically impossible to have a creation without a Creator. Nothing cannot create something. That's basic science. There has to be an eternal, immaterial first cause. Let me now make a prediction. As surely as tomorrow's sunrise, your come-back will be "Please substantiate your assertion with evidence." Prove me wrong</span>."</p></dd></dl>Poor Ray. He thinks that asking for evidence of an assertion proves that 'The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.' is true! It wasn't long ago that Ray was accusing Dimensio of suggesting that people should just believe and not ask questions too.<br /><br />The rest is pure cart before horse stuff and his prediction is a desperate attempt to head Dimensio off at the pass because he knows full-well that he has no evidence to back up <span style="font-style: italic;">anything</span> that he says. And I just love how he says; '<span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">That's basic science</span>.' as if he's given some indication that he's capable of understanding, well, anything!<br /><br />Classic Comfort.<br /><br />Cheers,ExPatMatthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08666078524214384329noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-39543162655847738982008-12-16T08:57:00.001-06:002008-12-16T08:58:27.952-06:00It's not funny any more that people are going to hell !! DON'T TOUCH ME!!!Alternate title: 'Vera goes to a coffee shop'<br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/STFT0C5Hu8M&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/STFT0C5Hu8M&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>nonmagichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-29529664719188405422008-12-16T08:13:00.004-06:002008-12-16T08:20:51.709-06:00If you're gonna come out to your parents, wait until after the holidays...<span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Just had to share this gem from</span> <a href="http://www.atheistmind.com/">Atheist Mind</a>:<br /><br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3mcOIyf9TOQ&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3mcOIyf9TOQ&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&feature=player_embedded&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /><br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Someone needs to educate this hysterical mother on</span> <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=s4gWlNT4Z_4">the <b>true</b> meaning of "Christmas"</a>. <b style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">c^_^ɔ</b>TripMaster Monkeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13780570912044493356noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-72912247438622054392008-12-16T03:35:00.002-06:002008-12-16T03:37:40.414-06:00What's in your head, zombie?<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/lyp5we2ySDo&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/lyp5we2ySDo&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /><br />My nomination for atheist anthem. The song is about the violence in Northern Ireland, but apply it to the struggle for minds and religion.<br /><br />Plus great imagery in the video<br /><br />lyrics <a href="http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/cranberries/zombie.html">here</a>Stewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13584058723818113125noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-55953572546022536132008-12-15T20:43:00.002-06:002008-12-15T20:43:44.836-06:00I thought I made myself pretty FUCKING clear...THIS is our theme song. If you don't get it, you're a false convert.<br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/2-jVU5Lqxx0&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/2-jVU5Lqxx0&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>Lance Christian Johnsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14662783824480475026noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-37674520568102000022008-12-15T20:19:00.000-06:002008-12-15T20:20:27.158-06:00Leap Frogging From Geoff's Post...I like these lyrics. (NSFW)<br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/3Tp0NPC8OGU&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/3Tp0NPC8OGU&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object><br /><span class="fullpost"></span>Yaegerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08639306782444621435noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-15658747855276741702008-12-15T19:38:00.002-06:002008-12-15T19:39:07.656-06:00Love Song from a Non-believerI love these lyrics...<br /><br /><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/FG0-cncMpt8&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/FG0-cncMpt8&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>Geoffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12440039369718675189noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-64741019170559455052008-12-15T18:25:00.005-06:002008-12-15T19:04:28.450-06:00<span class="fullpost"></span>Craighttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06124629994153584904noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-36493351373452533202008-12-15T17:19:00.005-06:002008-12-15T17:51:48.321-06:00Atheist AnthemsRay recently asked:<div><br /></div><div>"Tell me, what do you sing when you gather for your meetings?"</div><div><br /></div><div><div>SmuckersTheDog the came up with <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">Baby Got Back</span> by the ever-relevant Sir Mix-A-Lot<br /></div><div><div>I offered <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">Coconut</span> by Harry Nilsson - the logic of that song speaks to me like the logic of Ray's posts.</div><div>A great many people offered Lennon's subliminal <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">Imagine</span>, which if you ask me is a bit of a soft option.</div></div></div><div><br /></div><div>To be honest I'm not one for singing badly together. Trying to space the inherrantly irational preaching of some salt-and-pepper haired minister with some haphazardly vocalised hymns always seemed odd to me. But get a few glasses of jesus-juice in me and I get down like the US financial markets.</div><div><br /></div><div>So, say we got together and we <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: italic; ">had</span> to sing one song what would it be? <br /></div>Vagonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05758734418127314111noreply@blogger.com54