Ray's latest:
A pig-faced monkey has been discovered in a small village in China. The animal has a simian jaw, bulging forehead, small snout and eyes that are so close together that they appear almost attached.
After more than 100 years of waiting, we finally have a species-to-species transition. Have I been wrong all these years to say that there are no transitional forms, and that the Bible is right when it says that every animal brings forth “after its own kind”?
So, why aren’t millions of evolutionists jumping up and down with excitement? It’s because the ugly little fellow has nothing to do with a monkey except that he kind of looks like one. He is one of five piglets recently born to a sow, and the mother pig brought forth after her own kind, even though her own kind is an ugly duckling.
The piglet's rare condition is thought to be caused by a form of holoprosencephaly, a brain development disorder that can cause cyclopia, the failure of eyes to properly separate. That’s similar to a condition evolutionists have in the face of the evidence of intelligent design. It effects the working of the brain, and so the eyes don’t see the genius of the hand of Almighty God so evidenced in creation. 0 comments
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Damn. I thought you were making that post up! I'd already seen the story of the monkey-face pig on various news feeds, but when I read about linking that to evolution and transitional forms I thought you were taking the piss.
ReplyDeleteBut no, I've just been over to Asskiss central, and blow me down, it's real.
The man is so low.
He is now saying that I am like a congenitally deformed pig.
What an ass-wipe. This was his stab at humour, right? Suddenly I feel a kinship for Patrick Greene. No not really.
Well, a little bit.
And if he quotes that comment out of context I'll have a bloody aneurism.
He's prodding me with a stick.
I swear I will never comment on that stain of a blog of his. I will try not to visit it for fear of increasing his hit-rate.
If and when I blog on his stuff I will link to refreneces here.
grrrr!
What's the problem, Ray?
ReplyDeleteThis looks to me to be a clear-cut case of an evolutionary transition unfolding before our very eyes. At least evolution as Ray Comfort understands it.
The pig-faced monkey looks remarkably like your photoshopped ideas of what a species to species transitional form look like. You say since we don't see animals like these wandering about, then evolution isn't happening.
Well now we've seen one!
This is a pig with the head of a monkey, much like your crocoduck is a duck with the head of a crocodile. You claim the crocoduck is what a "species to species" transition should look like. What's the difference here?
So if we actually found a crocoduck, that still wouldn't be good enough for you? You'd just blame it on a birth defect.
You just wait till this pig-faced monkey gives birth to a monkey. I'd like to see you bible-verse your way out of that one. ;-)
Note Ray calls it a 'pig-faced monkey' when, in fact , it's a monkey-faced pig; it's those little details that consistently elude him, eh?
ReplyDeleteOh, and the fact that he lies. Constantly.
Rando,
I think you're right; we could present a duck, it's offspring; the crockoduck and it's offspring; the crocodile and he STILL wouldn't accept it as a true transitional. The reason he gets away with it is that he never properly defines what he means by species-to-species transitional. Same with all creationists and the definition of 'kinds'. Pure bullshit from start to finish with that guy.
AH!! So what he wants in a transitional form is a species turning into another, already-existing species. That's what he's looking for.
ReplyDeleteHe wants to now that all life is fluid, and a monkey can also be a pig and a fruit fly can be an elephant. He isn't looking for variations in a particular genetic lineage leading to something new, but instead something current changing into something current.
How likely!
You just wait till this pig-faced monkey gives birth to a monkey. I'd like to see you bible-verse your way out of that one. ;-)
ReplyDeleteMan, I sure hope that doesn't happen. The world would suddenly get really confusing.
Not too worried about it though.
This is the best bait Comfort has offered so far. I might just have to turn my computer off for a few days to keep from posting over there. And I can imagine the sycophantic replies he'll get.
ReplyDeleteRufus...
ReplyDeleteWho cares? I hardly even go over there any more (one in a while, for a laugh), I get all my Comfort from the Raytractors, and that's good enough for me. It just makes me so frustrated, and you guys are funny.
Ray has admitted (in some post I'd have to dig back through his blog to find) that he will never, ever believe in evolution no matter what evidence is presented to him because it would make his god out to be a liar.
ReplyDeleteSometimes I wish his god did exist, if for only 5 minutes and if only to open up a cloud and yell down 'Ray Comfort stop being such a stupid turd !!'
Whoops....Yeah I meant to type monkey-faced pig. I just used Ray's description even though I saw the picture. Dammit.
ReplyDeleteTheShaggy:
That's exactly what he thinks evolution predicts. Didn't you see his pictured of the half-cow, half cat "Cowt", or the half-human, half-elephant "Humaphant"?
Well now we have a half-pig half-monkey, so if Ray was at all concerned about his intellectual honesty he would have to acknowledge evolution is happening. Or admit that his idea of what transitional species are is stupid.
I'm guessing he's not too concerned about that though.
Lance:
You just wait till this pig-faced monkey gives birth to a monkey. I'd like to see you bible-verse your way out of that one. ;-)
Man, I sure hope that doesn't happen. The world would suddenly get really confusing.
Not too worried about it though.
But wouldn't you love to see Ray try to explain that one away!? If it confused us, imagine the mindfuck it would give Ray.
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ReplyDeleteYou know, what if a god opposite of Rays existed...
ReplyDeleteI mean, like, he was all powerful and all that crap, but he didn't want anybody to believe or worship him. But he got pissed off when people worshipped other Gods, instead of none. But he didn't mind because he's not an ass, but he saw Ray and decided he had to make a special place just for him in the after life, because he'd never heard someone talk such stupidity and ignorance. And, it's better to not believe than believe like Ray.
-Ranting's Wager
I'll take that Wager.
ReplyDeleteI have to give Ray a bit of credit:
ReplyDelete"So, why aren’t millions of evolutionists jumping up and down with excitement? It’s because the ugly little fellow has nothing to do with a monkey except that he kind of looks like one."
He actually didn't go were I thought he was going to go with that one.
It's hard to imagine that if a God did exist, he'd like the idea that Ray was speaking for him. I'd imagine that a God would want us to use the brains that we have.
ReplyDeleteDale, me neither. I predicted he'd be all "not gonna reproduce 'cause he's ugly and God only likes soupstrainer moustaches."
ReplyDeleteOkay, that last part I added now.
I appear to be the only one who's not shocked or even repulsed by this picture. I chalk it up to growing up on a farm. We saw a few birth defects from time to time, and I remember a piglet that looked a little bit like this one. It didn't live long.
ReplyDeleteflinging dust:
ReplyDeleteThat's the rub. Most people with the same kind of mindset as Ray's will never accept evolution. If Jesus came to Ray and had a conversation and the Law and sin and grace, and Ray said "yes, yes, I know, I believe", and at the end Jesus said "oh, Ray, evolution is real, it happened, it's happening now", Ray would cry out "false convert"! And I think a lot of what's behind their denial is ego. They talk about how humble they are, their humility and lack of pride, but it's God created ME, Jesus died for ME, etc.
Does anyone think Ray could have come anywhere near correctly spelling holoprosencephaly without copying and pasting? That he would have any clue what kind of disorder it was? Or come close to pronouncing it?
ReplyDeleteIf it was a photo of a child with the disorder, would Ray talk about God's "intelligent design"? Or would he talk about how the child was cursed because of the sin of two people who (supposedly) lived thousands of years ago?
Good point Rufus.
ReplyDeleteThat reminds me why we do this.