So, we have a supposed Rose, a moderate Christian, writing to Ray in "Shame on You!" Of course the Post is probably contrived, as Ray normally does. Although Rose does not actually make the point, Ray is once again looking for targets to demonize, one of the first signs one is dealing with a cult. The religion/ faith cannot stand on it's own without their victimization of almost every organization/ religion on Earth.
He doesn't address her questions, but throws her to his pack of ignorant uneducated Bibliolators.
How nice. They are back into their arrogant state and dealing out pablum by the car load. Now, thirty eight comments later and virtually no unbelievers commenting. the crazies are back in charge of the nut house, so to speak, which is a good thing. This establishes a baseline to see if Ray will pick up any stray atheists ready to shoot down their irrational ideas.
I checked out Joshua Black's blog, Day by Day. He is quite the prolific writer of irrelevent everyday experiences that he constantly attributes to a miracle of some sort or another and now he is begging people for money to send him to a missionary camp in the Bahamas. With Josh we see a totally extremest attitude accompanied by one of the worst cases of cognitive dissonance, and dedicated to isolating himself from the real world, another cult-like sign.
People of that ilk will not accept any natural thing unless Ken Ham or a couple other small group of authority figures that they feign over tell them to. The disdain of everything scientific and the charged emotional eperiences that they imagine are surely a symptom of some mental disorder/ inability to deal with reality.
Now, in the latest Post, Ray again tries to compare a painting or a building with designers to what we see in nature. He can't see the difference in that nature replicates itself and buildings and painings do not (Or do paintings and building fornicate and perpetuate their "species?")
One thing I have come to understand that Religion and superstitions are pervasive, along with fortune telling and astology, etc, etc, etc. There's some superstition available to any nut case that wants to opt out of reality.
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I really, truly admire the tenacity, knowledge and patience of Steven J and JG over there. Then I see comments like this one from Verifiedung (hat tip to RS for the very fitting moniker) and I really just have to shake my head and sigh at what passes for an intellect among fundys.
ReplyDeleteI also wouldn't have put it past Ray to have made up the supposed letter from Rose. How kind of him to just throw her letter out there and not answer her personally. What an asshole.
I've never been to Josh Black's blog. I wouldn't give that guy money to piss in a drought.
And yes, I agree 150% when you said "People of that ilk will not accept any natural thing unless Ken Ham or a couple other small group of authority figures that they feign over tell them to. The disdain of everything scientific and the charged emotional experiences that they imagine are surely a symptom of some mental disorder/ inability to deal with reality."
That painting/painter thing is so completely inane, but in about 2 hours he'll have dolts lined up saying 'Great post, Ray!', per usual.
Great Post, RAY!
ReplyDeleteBlech....
The painting/painter nonsense has been refuted over there at least 200 times since he started his blog.
I don't recall Ray ever addressing the counter-argument. Surprising, huh!?
Not only would I not be surprised if "Rose" is made up, I myself don't recall any posts at Comfort's blog by a "Patrick Greene". Of course, I may have missed it. Has anyone else seen a post by a Patrick Greene? I guess it might have been awhile ago.
ReplyDeleteI got the impression that both the Rose thing and the Patrick Greene thing were e-mails Ray'd received, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was just making shit up.
ReplyDeleteI can't speak for 'Rose', but when you type in 'Patrick Greene San Antonio' into Google, one of the sites you get says this:
ReplyDelete"Patrick Greene, a 60-year-old man from San Antonio, believes fans tossing and Al Sobotka twirling dead octopi at Detroit Red Wings games is "a sick, ugly, tradition." He has threatened to sue several parties to end that tradition, and has compared his campaign to protect the sanctity of seafood -- which Puck Daddy sadly inspired -- to the revolutionary struggles for women's suffrage and gay marriage. According to Fred Girard of The Detroit News, Greene claims he filed a federal lawsuit on Friday against Ilitch Holdings, owner of the Red Wings, to end this impious practice enjoyed by millions of Red Wings ..."
So, perhaps Mr. Greene is just an irate individual with a penchant for suing people?
We've had the No True Scotsman and the Painter/Painting idiocies in quick succession, what's next? A bit of Sturgeon Gold?
So, a nutcase, Ray Comfort, attracted a nutcase, Patrick Greene. That makes sense.
ReplyDeleteRufus,
ReplyDeleteWell, it's fairly obvious that Ray exclusively attracts nut cases!
As I posted on another thread here, josh just pretends scientific data doesn't exist even when someone like steven j. explains it to him with utmoost precision and patience. He doesn't even discuss it but just asserts that it is wrong because his 'model' is right. Pathetic and pathologically insane.
ReplyDeleteThese are the people who go missionizing the ignorant of the world. And society by large respects them for it. Sam Harris is absolutely correct when he states in 'The End of Faith' that we live in one of the most insane worlds imaginable.
Sure, in a group of people with an average IQ of 75, the one with an IQ of 90 appears as a genius. And I don't think that's an exaggeration.
ReplyDeleteBut Dale, that used to include us.
ReplyDeleteAs I posted on another thread here, josh just pretends scientific data doesn't exist even when someone like steven j. explains it to him with utmoost precision and patience. He doesn't even discuss it but just asserts that it is wrong because his 'model' is right. Pathetic and pathologically insane.
ReplyDeleteThese are the people who go missionizing the ignorant of the world. And society by large respects them for it. Sam Harris is absolutely correct when he states in 'The End of Faith' that we live in one of the most insane worlds imaginable.
Yeah, Josh Black is one of the most ignorant people over there. He's also quite proud of the fact that he's ignorant. He hasn't the first clue about science and repeatedly said he isn't interested in actually researching explanations that don't come from Answers in Genesis. I stopped bothering with him.
Steven J's thoroughly patient explanations are totally wasted on JB. Hopefully that isn't the case to lurkers on Ray's blog.
SCMike:
ReplyDeleteHey, I found 'em!!
So, this is where delusional, conspiracy-theory minded atheists who are obsessed with Ray Comfort hang out---Creeeeeepy! I'm out, it stinks in here. God Bless.
We already have one Sye here. We don't need his mini-me here as well. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Ramen!
scimke..."Hey, I found 'em!!"
ReplyDeleteWay to go, Magellan. What did you have to do - click your mouse twice? Fucking amazing.
Nafa, LMFAO! I needed a smile today, thank you.
ReplyDeleteVerifiedung. I like that. The next metamorphisis could be to petrifiedung.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you making fun of the world's most foremost authoruty on science, SCMike?
ReplyDeleteWhat a maroon......
rando,
ReplyDelete""Don't let the door hit you on the way out.""
Don't you mean, man-hole cover?
SCMike:
ReplyDeleterando,
""Don't let the door hit you on the way out.""
Don't you mean, man-hole cover?
No. You need to be mindful of the man-hole cover on the way back into Ray's blog.
God bless.
SCMike,
ReplyDeleteIt's OK. You're from South Carolina. Like being from Iran, you didn't stand much of a chance of not being another casualty to the GodBots.
Rufus said...
ReplyDeleteBut Dale, that used to include us.
Yes, but the operative words here are "used to." :>
If I broke that rule about abusiveness, I won't do it again. Promise.
ReplyDelete