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Wednesday, September 3, 2008

First Raytractor Contest

Well, Ray seems persistent with this nonsensical stream of posts on how atheism is a religion. Instead of responding further to this, I have a challenge for the Raytractors to post in this blog or in their own blogs:

Using Ray's definition, show how some cause, principle, or activity is a religion:
It’s interesting to note that one definition of religion is:

"A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion."

That rightly describes the ardent atheist cause. Despite protests to the contrary by its faithful adherents, atheism is a form of religion.
And remember, like Ray, you have to arbitrarily capitalize whatever you are addressing, regardless of the grammatical incorrectness of it:
Atheists may not like it, but even though they do not believe that they owe allegiance to God, like Buddhism, Atheism (note the capitalization) is a religion and those that adhere to its beliefs are "religious."
So, if yours is on stamp collecting, be sure to make it Stamp Collecting, and then make a reference to note the capitalization.

Finally, define the various aspects of the religion:
Pope: Charles Darwin
Bishops: Richard Dawkins • Daniel Dennett • Sam Harris • Christopher Hitchens
Holy City: Oxford, England
Creed: Darwinian evolution
Holy book: Origin of Species
Fellowship: Universal
Faith: The belief that there is no God
Agenda: The stop the advance of Christianity
Moral Code: Societal dictates
Language: Speculation
National Holiday: April 1st.
Just as a note, don't be afraid to misconstrue or redefine whatever you are addressing to make it fit, like Ray did with atheism:
Although many flinch at the thought that they have faith in anything, they believe that there’s no God, and even have "works" to confirm it.
I shall submit mine at a later time :-)

P.S. I'm rather interested to see Kaitlyn's submission ;)


  1. Ray Comfort is a cunt mouth lying sac of shit.

    Do I win?

  2. I do win, don't I? and if not, why not?

  3. Is maturbation a religion?
    Just askin......

  4. I happen to be a pedestrian, raised up that way....
    I hope you can empathise!

  5. Star Trek is a religion:

    Pope: Gene Roddenberry
    Bishops: William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, and DeForrest Kelley
    Holy City: Riverside, Iowa. The future birthplace of Captain Kirk
    Creed: Live long and prosper
    Holy Book: The Star Trek Encyclopedia
    Fellowship: Weird looking aliens
    Faith: Teleportation will one day be a reality. So will Klingons.
    Agenda: To boldly go where no man has gone before
    Moral Code: We come in peace. Shoot to Kill
    Language: Nerd

  6. Shmokin’ Weed

    Pope: Bob Marley

    Bishop: Jerry Garciaand some other dudes

    Holy City: Amsterdam or Vancouver or Wherever

    Creed: Puff, Puff, Pass

    Holy Book: High Times

    Fellowship: Getting high..duh.

    Faith: My eyes aren’t that red, right?…right?

    Agenda: Getting high..duh.

    Moral Code: Don’t bogart

    Language: huh?

    National Holiday: 4:20 pm

  7. Dale said:

    "Ray Comfort is a cunt mouth lying sac of shit.

    Do I win?"

    As far as I'm concerned, yes you do.

  8. Ignorrance ist a Relition (notE the CapitalizAtion):

    Pope: what?
    Bishops: what?
    Holy City: what?
    Creed: what?
    Holy book: what?
    Fellowship: what?
    Faith: what?
    Agenda: what?
    Moral Code: what?
    Language: what?
    National Holiday: what?


  9. Tom Jonesism

    Pope: Tom Jones
    Bishops: Delilah
    Holy City: Trefforest, Pontypridd, Wales
    Creed: It's Not Unusual
    Holy book: n/a - we have a Holy Album - The Best of Tom Jones
    Fellowship: She's a Lady
    Faith: Tom Jones rules
    Agenda: making sure that everybody loves the music of Tom Jones
    Moral Code: Everybody must listen to Tom Jones
    Language: English with a Welsh accent
    National Holiday: June 7

  10. nafa--

    Interesting choice. Their communion wafer could be a Dorito!

  11. Oops...

    I forgot one:

    National Holiday: Stardate 8128 (The death of Spock)

  12. P.S. I'm rather interested to see Kaitlyn's submission ;)

    :P I hath submitted upon mine blog.

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  14. I can't believe no one did this yet...

    Pope: Frodo
    Bishops: Samwise Gamgee, Meriadoc Brandybuck, Peregrin Took, Gandalf the Grey, Aragorn, Legolas, Gimili and Boromir.
    Holy City: Hobbiton, Minas Tirith
    Creed: "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
    One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie."
    Holy book: The Lord of the Rings
    Fellowship: ......of the ring......
    Faith: The the ring will be destroyed by Frodo in time to save all of Middle Earth, that good triumphs over evil, that people will do the right thing even if it's difficult
    Agenda: To destroy the one ring and save Middle Earth
    Moral Code: Don't make evil magic rings, don't piss off Aragorn and try to keep him from his rightful throne - also, pissing off elves is generally a bad idea.
    Language: Elvish
    National Holiday: Who's ever 111th birthday it is that year sets the date.

  15. Pope: Steve Jobs
    Bishops: Steve Wozniak • Andy Hertzfeld • Bill Atkinson • Jonathan Ive • Jef Raskin(Excommunicated)
    Holy City: Cupertino, California
    Creed: The only way to do great work is to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, keep looking. Don't settle. As with all matters of the heart, you'll know when you find it.
    Holy book(s): Inside Macintosh and the Macintosh HIG
    Fellowship: Artsy types and smart Computer users :)
    Faith: Steve is always right, long live the Steve
    Agenda: setting the bar just that much higher to push everyone else to strive to do better
    Moral Code(s): It's better to be a pirate than to join the Navy
    Language: Objective-C (Was AppleBASIC)
    National Holiday: April 1st (1976).

  16. Fundie cat sez lolcatz iz a religun

    Pope: Ceiling cat
    Bishops: Monorail cat, Tubcat
    Holy City: Catbox
    Creed: I can haz cheezeburger!
    Holy book: I cannot reedz.
    Fellowship: Anyone wit cheezeburger!
    Faith: U will giv me cheezeburger!
    Agenda: Ceiling cat waches u masturbait.
    Moral Code: Kill dog!
    Language: Fracturd inglish.

  17. I just want to know why, if he says the banana is the atheist's worst nightmare, it wasn't listed as our devil or anti-darwin?

  18. Blogger Kaitlyn said...

    Fundie cat sez lolcatz iz a religun

    Pope: Ceiling cat
    Bishops: Monorail cat, Tubcat
    Holy City: Catbox
    Creed: I can haz cheezeburger!
    Holy book: I cannot reedz.
    Fellowship: Anyone wit cheezeburger!
    Faith: U will giv me cheezeburger!
    Agenda: Ceiling cat waches u masturbait.
    Moral Code: Kill dog!
    Language: Fracturd inglish.

    National Holiday: Is caturday

    I LOL'd! (and I spend to much time thinking about LOLcatz)

    Ray's latest few posts are real obvious attempts at "Atheist-bait". Pretty dull.
    Except where he decided to ban "Christ Follower" because of his name.
    and what's with his latest post?
    Palin rocks. We are not going to have an Obama-nation.

    Posted by Ray Comfort on 9/03/2008 07:40:00 PM

    Does he often get political? I noticed that one of the "Living Waters" staff donated to some Republican guy...

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  20. Marillionism

    The zeal and conscientious devotion which fans show towards the band, even extending to the collection - unasked - $50,000 to finance a US tour when they discovered the band were unable to afford to come to the US in the late 1990s is well documented. This is the band that invented the now commonplace practice of asking the fanbase to finance the recording of albums up front. To their fans, this is a true religion. One which never disapoints and always delivers on its promises. You will be a believer. Amen.

    Pope: Steve Hogarth
    Bishops: Derek Dick (former Pope), Ian Mosley, Mark Kelly, Steve Rothery, Pete Trewavas
    Holy City: Aylesbury, England
    Creed: Marillionism
    Holy book: Separated Out by Jon Collins
    Fellowship: Universal
    Faith: The belief that Marillion is the best rock band in the world
    Agenda: To promote the music of the band Marillion
    Moral Code: It is acceptable to puchase multiple copies of the band's singles in an attempt to boost chart position
    Language: Primarily English
    National Holiday: March 1st (anniversary of first gig)

  21. Such harsh lanuage from intellectuals? You are really showing your IQs with your profanity!

    Why can't you debate the evidence we provide on Atheist Central?

    You could learn alot from Einstein, Flew, Sir Isaac Newton, and Greenleaf ... to name a few! :)

  22. Did you guys forget to spray for trolls again?

  23. How nice is is that Terry has crawled out of Comforts ass long enough to visit here.

    Please Terry, get your lying delusional, science degreed ass to the nearest VA hospital and get some help.

    As a fellow Navy retiree,I'm truly ashamed for you. Anything else I could say would be lost on you.

  24. Terry:

    Why can't you debate the evidence we provide on Atheist Central?

    We can't debate the evidence until you provide some. The nonsense you post isn't evidence of anything other than the fact you don't know what you are talking about.

  25. Terry,
    Fuck off and die, asswipe.

  26. Dale! Watch what you're saying. Honestly - that's no way to speak to Terrence. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    If you want the message to get through, you can't use words like that. You need to try something more like this:

    Dear Terry,

    In Jesus's name, fuck off and die, asswipe.


  27. Burtonism

    Pope: Terry Burton

    Bishop: Wild about Gospel, Man with a Badge, Fake dale

    Holy City: A Houseboat up on blocks in land-locked Kansas

    Creed: IRT

    Holy DVD: HBKS

    Fellowship: Having a BBQ for the ‘A’s every Tuesday.

    Faith: Denying reality.

    Agenda: Attempting to fit entire head up Ray Comfort’s ass.

    Moral Code: About 2000 years outdated

    Language: Incoherent babble.

    National Holiday: Everyday is a holiday from reality

  28. How did Ray come to be afraid of sunlight?

  29. Silent Dave - do I Detect a fellow Follower of the one true Religion of Marillionism in our Midst..?

    Whether tis by chance or whether tis by Conscious Action, verily hast thou invoked the classic 1995 Album by our Saviours!

    Praise Be!

    (Are all my capitals in the right place?)

  30. Except where he decided to ban "Christ Follower" because of his name.

    Holy cow that pisses me off. So I changed my name to Christ Follower. MAYBE EVERYONE SHOULD DO THAT.


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