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Sunday, September 21, 2008

An Army Of None

Which way to the war?

Evangelical Christians tell us we are at war. They call for Christians to be "soldiers of Christ". To put on the "Full Armor of God". To do battle against "evil". To fight for Christ.

Metaphorically? Ray Comfort, in a recent post said- "There is nothing metaphoric about the battle in which we find ourselves." If this is not a figure of speech, a symbol, does this have any basis in reality?

No. There is no basis in reality. This battle against evil is chimerical. It is imaginary. It relies solely on a mere supposition, a conjecture of what may possibly occur after death. Supported only by a book written by bronze age men, which has been mistranslated and misinterpreted for the past 2 millennium.

There is no evidence of the battle of evil. It exists only in the minds of religious zealots and prudes who belong in past centuries who cannot accept natural human sexuality nor scientific advancement and which shows their outdated religions to be false.

Yet war itself is the harshest of reality. I sincerely hope that all rational thinkers reject and refute statements by Evangelical Christians making references to "enemies", "soldiers of Christ", battling against "evil" and other such authoritarian and war-like tomes. From such talk only comes oppression.

Who will be the one who is not "blinded by Satan", the one who can direct the "soldiers of Christ" and define their mission? Who will they cast as the next "enemy" of Christianity? Jews? (been there, done that, but always good for demonification) Atheists? Artists? Musicians? Homosexuals?

Albert Einstein said - "The handful of those who are really determined to do something is minute in comparison with the mass of the lukewarm and the misguided. And those who have an interest in keeping the machinery of war going are a very powerful body; they will stop at nothing to make public opinion subservient to their murderous ends."

Ray Comfort says- "So don’t be concerned about us seeing you as the enemy."

(Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain, Dorothy!)

Be very concerned! Ray Comfort is a false prophet, a false teacher, and a fraud. Identifying enemies is a certain prelude to war. No one should consider themselves a "Soldier for Christ" or conceive of "God's Army", or speak of "battles". That is antithetical to what Christ, the Prince of Peace really preached-

"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called [known as] the children of God".


  1. I agree. This whole stuff sounds disturbingly medieval to me. I really thought, even the Christian faith might have evolved during the last thousand years...

  2. Nope - it has devolved.

    Christian thinkers 200 years ago discovered that geography disproves the biblical story of Noahs Ark. It is only withing the past 50 years or so that some small thinkers have rejected that proof and harken back to the childish stories of Genesis.

  3. We should form an army of the unsaved so that when we are in hell we will already be organized and ready to take out any and all demonic overlords to become SUPREME OVERLORD of the netherworld!

  4. Benjamin Franklin (and Jesus) said, "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called [known as] the children of God"

    Jesus also said, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:34-37

    The Bible is full of contradictions like this. You can find good teachings in the Bible, but you have to pick and choose the few good verses out of the hundreds of bad verses.

  5. This reminds me of those people that are trying to breed that spotless calf so they can bring about the end of the world.

  6. Well, the folks who are waiting for the unblemished red heifer also get their genetics from the Bible. Place striped sticks around your cattle and they will make striped cattle; Genesis 30: 37-39. What a science book!

  7. Kaitlyn-

    Have you ever contacted the San Francisco Atheists?

    San Francisco Atheists
    900 Bush Street #210
    San Francisco, CA 94109

    Their email is

    or perhaps a local unitarian group?

    First Unitarian Universalist
    Society of San Francisco

    (415) 776-4580

    1187 Franklin Street at Geary
    San Francisco, CA 94109

    If you want to talk to me, email McGuyver and ask him to give you my email address. Or if you like, let me know & I will email him my phone # if you want to talk.

    I am concerned about you.


  8. Nope - it has devolved.

    Genetic drift?
    I mean, the vast majority of Christians accept scientific evidence. Maybe Ray etc. are creating a new species?

  9. BF,
    Very well thought out and well written post. Thanks.

  10. Tilia-

    I don't think it's genetically based. Comfort was born Jewish.

    Just a combination of reactionary thought combined with profit potential.

    When it comes down to it, most of these preachers are just in it for the money, except for some like Hovind and Phelps, who are simply insane.

  11. bf

    I don't think it's genetically based. Comfort was born Jewish.

    Probably not... I just like this "meme theory"
    There are many aspects of culture which somehow 'evolve' over time. Language would be a better example than religion, but even religion usually adapts to its environment.
    I really hope that evangelicals like Ray and his deluded followers are just a dead branch.

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  14. EDIT: Wow, I can't type for crap. Reposted with corrections:


    This whole stuff sounds disturbingly medieval to me.

    I see it differently: it's a technique for justifying your existence or point of view.

    People do it all the time, regardless of whether we're talking about religion or politics or nationalism or {insert favored ideology here}.

    I mean FFS, this tactic is the reason neoconservativism is alive, kicking, and getting people killed.

  15. @Benjamin Franklin

    Thanks BF. Something is really wrong with me right now, and I doubt an atheist group will do anything.

    I think I'm going to stop posting on Ray's blog for a while. I'm going through these spells where I think Ray is right and I'm going to Hell.

    When I calm down, I realize how irrational I was, but during these periods, I just don't feel right. And even when it's over, there's still this lagging feeling that doesn't seem to go away.

    The only thing that seems to help is exercise and lots of it. So I'm going to spend the rest of the day playing video games.

    Thanks BF, I'm sure I'll be fine. :)

  16. It was the message 'Hell's Best Kept Secret' that set me on fire to evangelize the world. I wouldn't be where I am or who I am today without God having spoken to me through that message. I spent 3 years doing non-stop tract and personal evangelism from the time I first heard the message at 15 years of age until I left to go to Peru and China in 2002 after graduating from high school. I have now been a missionary for about 5 years . . . in the foothills of Tibet ministering to Buddhists and Muslims. I have prayed and longed for the day that 'Hell's Best Kept Secret' would no longer be the secret that it once was, and I am overjoyed to see all that God has done and is still doing!!!! -- Eugene West

  17. Kaitlyn,

    Playing video games? Isn't that a little bit impossible for a legally blind person.

    I don't believe anything you say!


  18. Multiple personalities, isn't that hard for a sane person?

    I don't believe what you say, Terry.

  19. Terry,

    I was wondering if your witnessing has ever been successful in getting people to convert to Christianity. If so, how many? What is your success rate?

  20. I would bet the success rate is the same as random chance.

  21. Playing video games? Isn't that a little bit impossible for a legally blind person.

    Terry you stupid fuck - show us where Kaitlyn EVER claimed she was visually blind.

  22. I'm legally blind, not totally blind.

    Forget it, I was stupid to ask to get saved. The second I showed the slightest interest in converting, you and freed jumped on me, calling me names, telling me I'm a liar, letting me know I don't deserve respect, etc...

    At first the whole witchcraft thing was cute and I played along, but this is too much.

    Terry, I'm sorry I trusted you, I was vulnerable and I thought maybe religion could help. I don't know what's going on with me right now, but I don't want your help any more.

    The atheists here truly care about me and would never say such things.

  23. Kaitlyn,

    I too have gone through moments of desperation... And us Raytractors are a pretty good group. I'd like to say we've built a tiny community here.

  24. Ranting Student:
    "I too have gone through moments of desperation... And us Raytractors are a pretty good group. I'd like to say we've built a tiny community here."

    Hmm... I also have the occasional "What if" moment, and the fear that comes with it. But I maintain that I am a truly open minded individual, and if God really does exist and isn't the same petty schitzophenic Ray worships, He wouldn't let me die without giving me a chance to be saved.

    And the mob mentality/community we've got here Rocks Terry's Socks Off!

    Whether or not that's a good thing is yet to be decided.


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