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Monday, November 3, 2008

Musings on the internal dialogues that will occur in people who think Sarah Palin is a decent human in the event of an Obama win.

First post for a week due to a new arrival in the 'Slaphead household - a beautiful little girl - and the ensuing timesuck that occurs. First chance today to get online and I note that the insanity and the inanity over at Ray's place and Terry's place and a thousand and one other bastions of illogicality remains in fine fettle. Let's hear it for da stoopid...

Anyway, here in the UK we're keenly following the US election, most of us hoping that Obama can win a historic victory and undo at least some of the damage that has been done to world stability by Bush and his cronies.

It's interesting to try and get a feel for the Palin-brigade. Terry's blogs are full of the most wonderful fuckwittery - he's even repeating the 'Obama is a Muslim' myth. He may have split from his guru Ray, but he's still full of similarly dumb notions. It made me wonder what the Terrys of Ithis world will blame if an Obama win is the eventual outcome? If they've all spent so much time praying hard to the sky fairy and get no answer, what are the chances of it shaking their brains hard enough to get them working again..?

I know, I know... 'slim to nothing'. It's all going to be the fault of Satan and homosexuals again.

I can still dream, you bastards.

P.S. For the creepy Christians, if McCain wins, I will be putting it down to him winning more states due to more people voting for him. Crazy, I know!

71 comments:

  1. BSH,
    Congrats on the new family member!

    I hope that after the election Palin drops in to obscurity, never to be seen or heard from again.

    Some Republicans are trying to say she will become the new inspiration and leader of the party. Funny, that.

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  2. Congrats on the new 'slaphead!

    An interesting link for you. Henry Rollins on the current political climate, and a possible Palin run for the presidency in '12

    http://www.cbc.ca/thehour/videos.html?id=907123927

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  3. BSH -

    Congrats on the new 'slaphead' from me as well. Girls.. a joy all around, but watch out - in 13-14 years, they tend to cause Dad to become sleepless at night!

    Keep her safe, make sure she's 'daddy's little girl' (spoil her almost rotten) and hope mum is doing well too!

    From a 'creepy' (?) believer.

    Now...

    I know that you gave some basic reasons why Brits (and Europeans in general) watch our elections, but the thing I want to tell you is - I don't care what you think! Your opinions about our election is about as my opinion about your 'royals' or who is PM over there! Seriously - the fate of the US is in the hands of the US voting public and I'm (personally) sick and tire of what people in other countries care.

    The fact is, I know that the rumor of BHO being a muslim is uncalled for (although it is documented that he was 'brought up in the faith' early in his life). The facts I'm worried about is that countries like Venezuala, the PLO and Hamas and even Iran have expressed how they hope that Obama is elected.

    This based on the inexperience, perhaps innocence, and also downright ineptitude shown by both Obama and Biden.

    If you're worried about Palin, you should understand the total idiotic, elitist moron that Joe Biden is. Check out his record on voting and actual accomplishments in the U.S. government in his 35 years.

    And as I suspect you 'adore' the 'messiah' as much as many overseas and even here in the U.S., I still want to know - what has Obama ever accomplished, other than to write two biographies before he was even 50 (or have ghost-written for him)? The guy has not voted on any major issue either in his limited time in the Illinois State Senate nor in the U.S. Senate; when he has voted (and not just been 'present' during a vote), he's voted along party lines 100% of the time. So much for 'bipartisanship' and 'reaching across the aisle'. I wish someone would 'reach across the aisle' and slap him 'upside-da head' and ask him some real hard-ball questions - such as, 'What EXACTLY do you plan on doing?'

    Sorry if that sounds emotional, but after tomorrow (Tues. November 4th 2008), I'll begin my cooling off/calming down period, no matter the outcome of the election.

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  4. If the majority of fundamentaloid Christians can be believed (I know, how naive), they'll pray for the new President no matter who it is.
    Besides the fact that this will achieve nothing but kill time, they'll turn right around and continue to campaign against anything they perceive to be un-Biblical. They may not admit it to themselves, but they hate democracy. It is the rule of sinful, profane law and fallible human ethics.
    They'll pray that the President make the right decisions, but when he'd even do as little as support a raped woman's right to abort a blastocyst within the first weeks of pregnancy, his decision is declared evil. The cognitive dissonance this causes will be suppressed and covered in pious nonsensical autosuggestive blathering.

    New Rule for political discussions:
    mention scripture, and you leave the panel.
    Talking about the content of ancient books is fine, but regarding them as self-evident unquestionable authority is simply not acceptable.

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  5. The facts I'm worried about is that countries like Venezuala, the PLO and Hamas and even Iran have expressed how they hope that Obama is elected.

    The fact that worries me is that Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden have expressed that they wish for a McCain victory.

    I don't adore Obama, and I've never seen a politician who's without fault or ambiguity on some issues. That's what democracy does, it requires compromise.
    I think he's the better man for the job, that's all.

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  6. Hey Baldy,

    Congrats on the new arrival!

    Are you going to use the Sarah Palin name-selector?

    Cashew would be a great name for a girl...

    I was going to dive into the whole political thing, but your news is far more important and infinitely more beautiful.

    All the best.

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  7. felix said:

    "The fact that worries me is that Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden have expressed that they wish for a McCain victory."

    I'd like to see this source, felix. I honestly had not seen it before.

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  8. felix said:

    "They may not admit it to themselves, but they hate democracy. It is the rule of sinful, profane law and fallible human ethics."

    I love democracy! It's exciting and gets your blood flowing (or boiling) at least every 4 years (if not every two).

    I don't know of a Christian that doesn't appreciate the system we have. I'm wondering on what experience you're basing this observation? What part of the US did you live in before Germany?
    I honestly am unfamiliar with your background so please forgive me if you've given some of your history before (beyond your profile).

    Thank you.

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  9. expatmatt said:

    "Are you going to use the Sarah Palin name-selector?

    Cashew would be a great name for a girl..."

    This, I'd like to see... anyone got a link for it?

    I have wondered what the Palins were doing (or what they were 'on') when they named their kids!
    :-)

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  10. update on my 'I love democracy' post...

    Actually, the U.S. is more of a republic...

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  11. I expect some Rapture-awaiting clowns to label an Obama victory (fingers crossed--go out and vote!) as a sign of the end times. Others will trump up hysteria about voter fraud. Some will say that McCain wasn't true enough to the cause.

    In short, I expect Republicans to become an even angrier party, which could somewhat marginalize them.

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  12. Livingasonefreed said...
    If you're worried about Palin, you should understand the total idiotic, elitist moron that Joe Biden is. Check out his record on voting and actual accomplishments in the U.S. government in his 35 years.

    Please don't tell me that you are only voting for McCain because the outside democrat running is even worse! What kind of basis is that to make a political decision?

    I don't care what you think! Your opinions about our election is about as my opinion about your 'royals' or who is PM over there! Seriously - the fate of the US is in the hands of the US voting public and I'm (personally) sick and tire of what people in other countries care.

    Let's see if you can pull it off this year without any irregularities.

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  13. Laof,
    I was going to say that if I were to write a parody of what right wing nut cases like you are saying, I couldn't have done a better job than you just did.

    You said:
    "This based on the inexperience, perhaps innocence,...."

    I suppose it doesn't matter to you that Obama is a graduate of Columbia University (where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations,) or that he graduated with a B.A. from Columbia in 1983, then worked for a year at the Business International Corporation and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.
    and Harvard Law School, where he served as president of the Harvard Law Review, or that he worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving three terms in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004, or that he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

    To compare him with one of the darlings of the right wingers, president Reagan, who was an actor and a union organizer cum union buster.
    Or it doesn't matter to you that he was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70 percent of the vote.

    I suppose it doesn't matter that He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel.

    I suppose it doesn't matter to you that In February 1990, in his second year at Harvard, Obama was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the Law Review's staff of eighty editors, or that beginning in 1992, he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, being first classified as a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996, and then as a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004.

    I suppose none of that counts as experience to a fundamentalist bigot like you.

    I suppose it doesn't matter that Obama, in 1993, joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a twelve attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004.

    I suppose it doesn't matter that Obama Obama voted in favor of the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and cosponsored the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, or that In September 2006, Obama supported a related bill, the Secure Fence Act

    It doesn't matter to you that he introduced two initiatives bearing his name: Lugar–Obama, which expanded the Nunn–Lugar cooperative threat reduction concept to conventional weapons, and the Coburn–Obama Transparency Act, which authorized the establishment of USAspending.gov, a web search engine on federal spending, or that On June 3, 2008, Senator Obama, along with Senators Thomas R. Carper, Tom Coburn, and John McCain, introduced follow-up legislation: Strengthening Transparency and Accountability in Federal Spending Act of 2008, or that he He also became Chairman of the Senate's subcommittee on European Affairs.

    I'm sure that none of that counts as experience.

    Now, who is this Sarah Palin?

    Laof,
    You are a liar and a phoney.

    When Obama graduated from Harvard Law School he could have written his own ticket into any of the most prestigious law firms in the United States. But he chose to become involved in community.

    If he wins, he's got four years. If he doesn't make the grade, we vote him out.

    In the meantime, as you noted, you will just need to suck it up, lil buddy.

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  14. laof,
    ""Al-Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election," said a commentary posted Monday on the extremist Web site al-Hesbah, which is closely linked to the terrorist group. It said the Arizona Republican would continue the "failing march of his predecessor," President Bush.

    The Web commentary was one of several posted by Taliban or al-Qaeda-allied groups in recent days that trumpeted the global financial crisis and predicted further decline for the United States and other Western powers. In language that was by turns mocking and ominous, the newest posting credited al-Qaeda with having lured Washington into a trap that had "exhausted its resources and bankrupted its economy." It further suggested that a terrorist strike might swing the election to McCain and guarantee an expansion of U.S. military commitments in the Islamic world.
    ...
    In any event, the comments summarized what has emerged as a consensus view on extremist sites, said Adam Raisman, a senior analyst for the Site Intelligence Group, which monitors Islamist Web pages. Site provided translations of the comments to The Washington Post.

    "The idea in the jihadist forums is that McCain would be a faithful 'son of Bush' -- someone they see as a jingoist and a war hawk," Raisman said. "They think that, to succeed in a war of attrition, they need a leader in Washington like McCain."
    ...
    Leaders of the Iranian-backed group Hezbollah expressed a favorable view of Obama during the primary campaign but later rejected the Democrat after he delivered speeches expressing support for Israel."
    http://activerain.com/blogsview/760226/Al-Qaeda-Osama-bin-Laden-Support-McCain-for-President-The-Washington-Post

    I apologize for implying that Osama had weighed in personally.

    I'm not including you in my statement about democracy personally, but that's the impression I get from reading various websites. As I said, it seems that they don't realize themselves how anti-democratic and anti-secular their views are. We can only test this if they get to power or effectively consolidate their efforts to influence politics.
    I've lived in Oregon for a short while, where I had no contact with obvious fundamentalism. I didn't attend church more than a few times (with the people I stayed with), so I can't judge what they speak of generally.

    Majority rule is fine if minorities get adequate protection and representation. I find it baffling that groups like the ones advocating Proposition 8 in California, campaign against the rights of others that don't infringe on their own lifestyle in any shape or form. This is pure malice in my opinion, homophobia masquerading as patriotic piety, using despicaple measures such as attempting to extort business owners and companies who opined against Prop. 8 (as in the infamous protectmarriage.com letters).

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  15. felix:

    That's news to me, and I'll check out your link.

    In the meantime, see this link to Rueters (sorry for not embedding link, in a rush right now):

    http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE49T76620081030?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

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  17. felix said:

    "Majority rule is fine if minorities get adequate protection and representation. I find it baffling that groups like the ones advocating Proposition 8 in California, campaign against the rights of others that don't infringe on their own lifestyle in any shape or form. This is pure malice in my opinion, homophobia masquerading as patriotic piety, using despicaple measures such as attempting to extort business owners and companies who opined against Prop. 8 (as in the infamous protectmarriage.com letters)."

    felix - such intimidation goes on on both sides (examples forthcoming). We've (voters anywhere) got to just be discriminating on what we believe.

    (deleted/reposted to fix typos.)

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  18. I read your link.
    Yup, al-Qaeda are loony all right. Of course they'll continue hating the US and the West no matter who is in charge.
    If the elected, arguably Islamist-infested, government of Iraq or Afghanistan decides that foreign troops should go, what can we do? Oblige, pull out, wait for the radicals to usurp power and then re-invade, or stay against their will as a hostile occupation force being targeted by even more terrorists than we are now. Looks pretty much like a lose-lose situation to me.

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  19. LAOF, if you don't really care about what us non-Americans think or believe with regards to Obama vs. Flippin' Lunacy, why do you care what nations or terrorist organizations think? You said both within one post. Just because THEY like him, does that mean that Obama supports their cause?

    Hell, having groups like Hamas like you could actually serve the interests of world peace! Anyway, it's irrelevant: http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/06/04/hamas-unendorses-obama-after-speech-to-pro-israel-lobby/

    As a Canadian, I watch this election very close. No other foreign country stands to be affected by the result nearly as much as us, and that includes Iraq. A month ago we made the mistake of reelecting our own frightening right-winger back into power with a minority government (meaning that the majority of Canadian voters don't support him, but no one party had more seats in legislature than his Conservatives), and after a number of years of his pro-Bush policy, having him plus McCain and Nutbar running the North American show is a scary idea.

    The worst part is that you're right, the destiny of the US election is in the hands of the US voters, and I for one hope the blue states turn out in droves to vote for common sense. All I and everyone who lives in America's Hat can do is watch helplessly as our own fate is decided by a country that really seems to have no clue.

    Baldy: Congrats on BabySlaphead! May your wife continue to be subordinate to the new child as well! ;-P

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  20. congratulations, Baldy!
    Eight years ago I would have said a new baby is much more important than some stupid American politicians, but then they voted GWB. (Oh, sorry. They didn`t, but you know what I mean...)

    All power to the UN!!!

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  21. theshaggy:

    "LAOF, if you don't really care about what us non-Americans think or believe with regards to Obama vs. Flippin' Lunacy, why do you care what nations or terrorist organizations think? "

    You've got me in a contradiction, I would admit.

    As you express later in your post, it's just so aggravating that the likes of Obama can have gone from his do-nothing stint in the Illinois State Senate to a do-nothing stint in the U.S. Senate to contender for the highest office in our nation.

    I begrudgingly admit that he's a smooth talker, a personality in a suit. But he's an empty suit. His policies (when you can nail him down into actually stating them) are downright scary. His 'spread the wealth' (actually 'spread the income') ideas don't just 'smack' of socialism, they are socialism.

    I apologize for seeming to not care rat's-*** about your opinion or anyone else who's not a voter in the U.S. Normally I try to be open and objective. I do promote the sharing of views and ideas (hence the constant annoying posts of mine on this blog).

    But as I've expressed before during the last month especially, this is truly going to be an aggravating time in the U.S.'s future if Obama is elected. We'll have a Democrat-party controlled Senate, House of Representatives and White House. The system of checks-and-balances will be 'turned off' for that term. The liberal policies (and laws) that, I feel, will ruin this country, will most likely be rammed through in broad daylight (as opposed to the dead of night, as Nancy Pelosi is so fond of doing).

    It is, just MHO, but it's the opinion of someone who cares about the direction of his country, someone who has spent time defending his country and someone who isn't as isolated from the rest of the world as you may think.

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  22. tilia said:

    "All power to the UN!!!"

    You've just fallen from my good graces (but I doubt you care).

    ;-)

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  23. Baldy - a female rugrat.

    Nice one. Well done to missus baldy, here's my wishes for a happy household.

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  24. Anyone who thinks people of other countries, especially Canada, England, Germany, and France should not be commenting or be interested in our presidential elections should go eat shit, laof.

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  25. Laof,
    "As you express later in your post, it's just so aggravating that the likes of Obama can have gone from his do-nothing stint...."

    Apparantly you either ignored or did not read my earlier comment on the experience of Obama.

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  26. laof,

    "just MHO, but it's the opinion of someone who cares about the direction of his country,..."

    And Bush had eight years in office with six of them with republican controlled congress and look how great of shape the country is in today. /sarcasm off.

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  27. Livingas...asked what country I live in.

    The USA. What did I say that you think is unreasonable?

    There have already been people speculating that Obama is the antichrist. There have already been lots of grips about alleged voter fraud. And there have been many McCain critics on the right who have said that he didn't firmly and aggresively make the case for the right and against the left.

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  28. Livingasanasshole,

    You relexively asked me and others about whether they're from America, and what part of America they're from. The vision of America that you and Ann Coulter imagine is a myth. I'm a real American whose views differ from yours, so stop questioning where I'm from.

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  29. Geoff said:

    "Livingasanasshole,

    You relexively asked me and others about whether they're from America, and what part of America they're from. The vision of America that you and Ann Coulter imagine is a myth. I'm a real American whose views differ from yours, so stop questioning where I'm from."

    I' 'relexively' asked you and others where they are from also because perhaps I want to gauge how the country is going in different areas, but yes, to see if you were from the US as well.

    Perhaps if you and froggie weren't so 'relexively' denouncing anyone who has the ability to express their opinion on 'your' blog, then perhaps you aren't any better than others you so strongly criticize.

    Froggie - you can call me a liar as much as you wish. I admire your little 'retort' to my accusations.

    I stand by my claim that Obama himself is a do-nothing and would be no good for this country. Bellow all you want about it.

    Perhaps I should have said 'significant legislation' which of course would be subjective.

    I've followed Obama a lot closer than most people here, and a lot longer than the 21 months since he announced his candidacy.

    And, no matter the outcome of the entire election, here's hoping McCain carries Pennsylvania.

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  30. Congratulations on the birth of your daughter.

    Sarah Palin is ignorant and uneducated. That isn't a crime. But she's proud of it. Take her criticism of fruit fly research. She doesn't know anything about it, what it has done, how it is used. Nothing. She said more should be done about autism. A fine goal. Search into autism is based on fruit fly research. Maybe one of the regular "real" Americans that Sarah Palin talks about will find a cure/treatment for autism. Maybe it'll be "Joe the Plumber", or Joe Six Pack. Maybe Ray Comfort will come up with it, accompanied by a bad cartoon by Richard Gunther. Or, maybe witches cause autism. Then Sarah Palin could get her witch hunting minister buddy from Africa to take care of autism. Yeah, that'll work.

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  31. I'm (personally) sick and tired of what people in other countries care.

    First and foremost, I'd like to be a dork and ask that we don't attack each other too personally. I value having all kinds of wacky personalities here, and try hard to not alienate anyone.

    But - that's just my opinion of what this blog is about.

    Secondly LAOF, you have to admit that the US is the current super-power (though China's gonna kick our tails soon), and thus Presidential changes are very important to the rest of the uncivilized savages living in other countries.

    Additionally, our track record for handling international affairs over the last 8 years has been abyssmal. How can you blame other countries from being really interested in what happens in this election?

    I don't think their opinions should matter to you; vote for who you want, and that's that. Nonetheless, it's silly to think that there shouldn't be "extraneous" commentary.

    We as a country claim to be very important (in terms of Democratic Vision, Miltary Might, Economic Power, etc). Critique is going to be forthcoming as a result...

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  32. Oh and, um, our screw ups tend to affect other countries as well. Despite what my conservative brethren would like to believe to the contrary, we don't exist in a vaccuum.

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  33. Livingasanasshole,

    Nope. You don't get off the hook by now claiming you "want to gauge how the country is going in different areas."

    If that were true, you would just ask where I was from, and you would ask that of everyone, including people on Ray's blog that you agree with.

    No, your implication was that I'm not an American because of the views I expressed. At least have the courage of your slanders.

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  34. Speaking of Presidential candidates:

    http://www.cracked.com/article_16748_6-most-insane-people-ever-run-president.html

    Does the guy at number one remind you of anyone named Terry Burton?

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  35. I'd known of Ms. McKinney, but lived in blissful ignorance of the other 5. Great link, Rufus :)

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  36. Rufus,

    What's the higher academic rank, Collegiate Professional or Science Degree Guy?

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  37. LOAF, I don't find your posts annoying. They actually contribute a great deal, and I think that's obvious by the thought-out responses you get - even by those who call you names ;)

    Anyway...

    As you express later in your post, it's just so aggravating that the likes of Obama can have gone from his do-nothing stint in the Illinois State Senate to a do-nothing stint in the U.S. Senate to contender for the highest office in our nation.

    First of all, I didn't express that anywhere in my post. My frustration was at not being able to be involved in the decision-making which will shape the world for the next four years and having to sit by and watch a close race that shouldn't be close at all.

    As for Obama being a do-nothing, you have yet to refute all the things that Froggie listed Obama as "doing." Compare educations.

    As Froggie also mentioed, you had six years of a nearly perfect Republican hold of your government. I think you've got a point when he asks how the country is now (think: Patriot Act). However, I wonder what the Democrats would do that can be worse than anything the Republicans already have.

    With that in mind, what's more dangerous to you: a guy who doesn't really do anything, or a guy who rips away personal freedoms and destroys the learning of a nation?

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  38. laof,

    You've just fallen from my good graces (but I doubt you care).

    no, in this case I really don't care. I stick to my opinion. It's a disaster for our planet that the election of the most powerful man (or woman) in this world might depend on some retarded hillbillies that vote the one who agrees with them on abortion or church going.

    As for the unwanted opinion of Europeans: If the tone of American foreign policy doesn't change in the next four years, I promise you we'll retreat our troops, our money and our equipment from Afghanistan. Even we have a parliament that wants to be reelected.

    You won't win your stupid "war against terror" with unilateralism.

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  39. geoff:

    "No, your implication was that I'm not an American because of the views I expressed. At least have the courage of your slanders."

    No, you're wrong. Just because I wasn't clear in the way I phrased the question, doesn't give you the right to make such an accusation.

    Why do you automatically think the worst of a simple question?

    Nice way to ridicule me, by changing my 'name'. Such eloquence, such imagination, such intelligence. Do you do this to hide the rest of your childish behaviour?

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  40. Geoff:

    I guess Lee Mercer, Jr. and Terry Burton would have to debate that one. And wouldn't that be a sight to see? But as much as I like TB, I think Mercer would win. He's out there in Ted Kaczynski land. As another bat shit, chainsaw, out house American once said, only in America.

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  41. You won't win your stupid "war against terror" with unilateralism.

    We wont win the war regardless of who's helping. Terrorism isn't something you can fight with soldiers or bombs; you have to fight it with ideology.

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  42. tilia said:

    "As for the unwanted opinion of Europeans: If the tone of American foreign policy doesn't change in the next four years, I promise you we'll retreat our troops, our money and our equipment from Afghanistan. Even we have a parliament that wants to be reelected.

    You won't win your stupid "war against terror" with unilateralism."

    Now I detect you taking something too personally.

    Your parliament is more than welcome to withdraw the (4,500?) troops from Afghanistan. I just am beginning to tire of citizens of other countries complaining that the 'U.S. made us to this' or that... I thought people of other nations (such as German) were ablt to think for themselves as well? Don't blame the U.S. for some issue you have with your government. I tire of others telling the U.S. to do something when they seem to have problems of their own that they should be concentrating on.

    Despite all that, I still would consider it quite interesting to meet you, specifically, one day. I don't hate individuals because their opinions differ, I try to embrace the difference. But, that's just my opinion (as is just about everything I post there).

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  43. whateverman said:

    "We wont win the war regardless of who's helping. Terrorism isn't something you can fight with soldiers or bombs; you have to fight it with ideology."

    Maybe I should just give WeM time to reply to most statements, since he has a way of putting it more succinctly (and more times then not, I agree with him).

    And with that - I'll shut up.

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  44. We wont win the war regardless of who's helping. Terrorism isn't something you can fight with soldiers or bombs; you have to fight it with ideology.

    Exactly. And it doesn't help if one can get the impression it's the USA against the rest of the world.
    If we can't have disagreements without some idiots changing "French fries" into "Freedom fries" terrorism is already winning.

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  45. Exactly. And it doesn't help if one can get the impression it's the USA against the rest of the world.

    Unilateralism is simply pig-headed ignorance. But to avoid destroying this comfy feeling of "thread conclusion", I think I'll stop writing :)


    If we can't have disagreements without some idiots changing "French fries" into "Freedom fries" terrorism is already winning.

    Although I agree that the above was embarassingly stupid, I disagree that it had anything to do with terrorism. It was simply another example of the ubiquitous Nationalism that's put on display as patriotism.

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  46. To all the Obama supporters out there, why would you vote for someone who kills babies and places their severed heads on pikes outside the White House?

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  47. On a more serious note, there are a lot of good reasons to vote for John McCain over Obama, but I find it interesting that MrFreeThinker seems to have bought the propaganda of the McCain campaign, hook, line, and sinker instead of making a rational decision.

    Similarly, few of the Obama supporters here are chanting the Obama campaign propaganda.

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  48. kaitlyn -

    do you feel a tension because of this election?

    Whether it's my age or what, I don't think I've seen a presidential election that's been so tense, electrifying, whatever term you use for it.

    (voter since 1980)

    Verification word at this moment - 'jewess'. Is that some hidden antisemitism on blogspot's part?

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  49. Thanks for all the comments about my daughter - I really wasn't fishing for compliments, but it's lovely all the same. I'll invite all you atheist commentators round sometime and we can dedicate her to Satan or eat her roasted flesh or whatever loonified stuff it is we're supposed to do (I was thinking of trying to bring her up as a decent, productive member of society, but as an atheist, apparently this route is barred to me...).

    Getting on to Livingasonefreed's comments about 'caring' what I or other non-US citizens think, others have already made most of the good points. However, why should that stop me..?

    No one asked you to care about what I think; it doesn't stop me having a view, however. And it's very different from your views on the British Royal family; a bunch of people who have tourist value, but no power. If the US government (and its allies, including, shamefully, my own government) decides to persue a particular line of foriegn policy, that *does* directly impact on my life, particularly when it results in an illegal war justified to the UN on the back of lies and especially when said illegal war has been the single best recruitment tool for Islamic terrorism ever, and *that* has directly caused the deaths of people in my country.

    Whether I like it or not, what the US says affects me, and I have a considered view. I couldn't give a flying fuck whether you're tired of it or not.

    According to the latest polls, God ain't paying you Christian's prayers much attention, so best get your head down rather than care what I think, eh?

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  50. "According to the latest polls, God ain't paying you Christian's prayers much attention, so best get your head down rather than care what I think, eh?"

    Polls have always favored the Democratic candidate - even in years that the Republican candidate won, such as with Reagan, Bush I (first term) and Bush II (both terms).

    So I don't put a lot of faith in them.

    We'll all have our answer tomorrow night (or early Wednesday morning). Then we can do our 'I told you so's as appropriate.

    Either way, my congrats about your daughter were sincere. Hope she continues to be the joy of your life!

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  51. Also congrats on ze leeeetle vun.

    Az for ze poleetics: everyone has already covered most of it without me.

    Australia pulled our (or is pulling our) troops out of Iraq due to the election of our new PM earlier this year (after 12 years of a conservative PM, the change is a welcome respite).

    I'm hoping for an Obama win. The world doesn't need another almost-dead white dude as the most powerful guy in existence. And the concept of Palin backing him up...

    We should arm all the moose in Alaska with high powered sniper rifles.

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  52. From today's Sydney Morning Herald

    Rape victim, 13, stoned to death in stadium


    November 4, 2008

    AN ISLAMIST rebel administration in Somalia ordered that a girl, 13, be stoned to death for adultery after the child's father reported that she was raped by three men.

    Amnesty International said the al-Shabab militia, which controls the city of Kismayo, arranged for 50 men to stone Aisha Ibrahim Duhulow in front of about 1000 spectators. A truck laden with stones was brought to the stadium for the killing. Amnesty said the girl struggled with her captors and had to be forcibly carried into the stadium. Amnesty said: "Inside the stadium, militia members opened fire when some of the witnesses to the killing attempted to save her life, and shot dead a boy who was a bystander."

    The girl's father told Amnesty that when he tried to report her rape to the militia the child was accused by the administration of adultery and detained.

    None of the men accused of the rape was arrested. The girl was earlier reported by witnesses as being 23 years old.

    Guardian News & Media

    This story was found at: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/11/03/1225560735918.html

    Fuck religion. Fuck misogyny. Fuck them all and the camels they came in on.

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  53. Sorry Baldy for bringing that dampener (above). Congratulations on the birth of your daughter.

    I have a 17 year old daughter, and articles like the one above make me want to act like a wrathful god, and smite the whole fucking lot of them.

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  54. Kiwi,

    Well said,
    Fuck those bastards and the horses they rode in on.!

    Power to the people!

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  55. That fucker Obama. First, he had his evil Muslim/Marxist secret agents poison his "WHITE" grandmother to try to get sympathy and votes; and now, when that didn't work, he had her killed.

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  56. Congratulations, Baldy! But please come up with a suitable nickname for the little one quickly, before we start referring to her as BaldyBaby or Babyslaphead. That's enough to give a kid a complex, if she finds out about it in later years.

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  57. Kiwi: You just ruined my day. Anyone wants to blame atheism for the worlds violence right now is going to find me tracing their IP, coming to their house and BBQing their cat when they go away for the weekend.

    [Irradiating the countryside with pure hatred]

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  58. She's already nicknamed 'Squeaks', but 'BabySlaphead' is fabulous!

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  59. I've had a look at the (somewhat outdated) wikipedia page for Somalia. This is one of the most fucked up countries in the world.

    They have no law enforcement worth the label, and militias, the military, the police and the muslims are all outdoing each other in brutality. The whole country seems to be full of exactly the people that caused the Biblical god to execute complete extermination measures.
    As during the Biblical Judges period, apparently he's still cruising Andromeda.

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  60. Looks like those damn commies and homosexuals voted in force then...

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  61. I was never a rabid Obama fan, nor was I harshly against McCain.

    With that said:

    Yay us!

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  62. "MrFreeThinker seems to have bought the propaganda of the McCain campaign, hook, line, and sinker instead of making a rational decision."
    what?
    Where did I say I was Republican?

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  63. mrfreethinker said:

    "Where did I say I was Republican?"
    and
    "i'm not even American btw"

    That's standard operating around here, MFT... as many assumptions are thrown about as any other place, although some (but not all) people here are unwilling to admit it.

    For example, many people here assume:

    1. I'm caucasian
    2. I'm a 'fundie'
    3. I'm a card-carrying Republican

    Where they got this information, I don't know...

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  64. "For example, many people here assume:

    1. I'm caucasian
    2. I'm a 'fundie'
    3. I'm a card-carrying Republican

    Where they got this information, I don't know."

    Just looking at your profile gives a bloody good idea.

    1) ELO do not have a big ethnic crossover audience. The vast majority of music-cited on your profile does not exactly scream 'non-white'.
    2) Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck... See also taste in terrible, happy clappy, Christian 'rock' bands.
    3) Ann Coulter fan. The GOP may be a little too commie for you.
    Likes lots of Christian bands.

    Assumptions they may be, but they're not exactly based on no-evidence.

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  65. I'm not an American citizen and I'm not conservative, but it puzzles me that American would putguy with virtually no experience and who has been associated with background in a particulary controversial racist church
    at the helm of the nation.
    That bugs the heck out of me

    Heres a good video from James white

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