Where Ray really gets his understanding of the economy...

Prophecy Fulfilled!

Ray Comfort's 'Throne'

You just gotta love him...he makes it so easy...

Ray's latest post over at "Atheist Central" is just one of Richard Gunther's comics. No words, just the comic. Apparently, Ray thinks it speaks for itself...and in this one instance, I find myself in total agreement with him.

I'm copying the comic below, because for reasons that will soon become clear, I have good reason to believe that it will either be edited or pulled entirely from "Atheist Central". Here it is:



(Original comic by Richard Gunther)


Take a good look at the comic. Note how the Bible clearly states that the silly hat wearer will cast the Bible over their right shoulder.

Now examine the last panel carefully.

The great thing about a screw-up like this is that Ray can't just retroactively change a few words of text to cover his ass, like he normally does. He'll have to either a) beseech Richard Gunther to redo the comic, b) try to Photoshop it himself (or have one of his team of crack moderators do it), or c) just pull the post entirely. There is also an outside chance that he'll d) leave it as-is and try to bluff his way through, by claiming that the person depicted in the comic was dyslexic or something, or that the error was intentional, to draw out all of us nit-picking atheists. Heck, he might try to just claim that the comic clearly depicts the character tossing the Bible over his right shoulder, despite the obvious evidence to the contrary. After all, Ray is an old hand at denying the obvious.

So, what path do you think Ray will take here?

How appropriate is this?

religious leaders draw up Ten Blogging Commandments

Alarmed by the extent to which religious blogs can descend into vitriol, senior evangelical clergy are calling on bloggers to obey the new commandments or risk perdition.

The commandments order bloggers not to put your blog before your integrity; not to “make an idol” of the blog; not to misuse your screen name by using your anonymity to sin and to remember the Sabbath by taking one day off a week from blogging. They also order: “You shall not use the web to commit or permit adultery in your mind.”

Have they got Ray pegged or what?

Ray Comfort, The True Champion of Christians?

Evolution is such an important issue. This generation has been brainwashed by
this idiocy, all in the name of science. So, this week’s "Special" is: Buy ten
copies of the DVD for just $20, and we will throw in a free copy of, Evolution.
The Fairy Tale for Grownups (over $60 worth).

As you can see, we have definitely gone under his skin. Just like it was speculated that after the Bumper Sticker incident, Living Waters was going to give out free bumper stickers on April First. Now that Ray is being given an onslaught of scientific facts he is trying incredibly hard to ignore, and being proved wrong and wrong again by people who understand evolution, he obviously has gotten ticked off in some way that he resorts to spreading his propaganda.

Not only does he speak nonsense about something he doesn't understand, he thinks that what he says is legit and correct! He's been proved wrong, yet he still thinks he is justified in ignoring facts! He even posted reviews by other creationists at the end of the post-

"I have never heard evolutionary theory debunked and undone in a more effective
and easy to understand way . . ." Damon H. (CA)

"You'll love this . . .
So funny yet informative and gives you enough to give ‘intelligent’ answers to
those brainwashed by evolution."

(Besides the point, who is the second quote attributed to?).
Anyway, it is those quotes that got me to thinking something. You see, not only has Ray continued to spread his same refuted nonsense and lies and misunderstandings on evolution, his creationist followers believe him. And, he has already won over them. So, there is at least ONE good thing about this whole "I'll give you creationist propaganda crap for only $20! I like to fleece my sheep!" and all that jazz... You see, if Ray Comfort is one of the main guys where Christians get their material, that can be a good thing in certain conditions (A lot of people being deluded by a very dumb man cannot be extremely good, but some good can come out of it).

When we engage theists like those who trust Comfort, we're in luck. All of the things they'll use against us will evidently come from him. And, as we all know, it is incredibly easy for Ray Comfort to be refuted. So, you'll refute the theists incredibly easily, perhaps even showing him/her the error of their thinking (Granted they're intellectually honest).

So Ray, I hope you sell all of your DVDS and Books! Christians, buy them in bulks and distribute them to your church groups! I'm sure many do already. But hurry! That way, in only becomes easier for people like us to refute the arguments from the Christian apologists in our lives!

Thanks Ray.

My Contribution to Lance's Catch-Up List

The Prophet's Profit

My cap, I am now forced to doff it,
And bite my tongue rather than scoff. It
Seems Living Waters
Feeds Ray’s sons and daughters.
Who knew it would turn such a profit?

(Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've already got this in the comments on one of aceofclubz' excellent posts.  So sue me.)

Chumming the waters in desperation

Over at "Atheist Central" , Ray has devoted an entire post to something that he has already thought so clever as to merit a permanent place on his sidebar - the inane "Atheist Starter Kit".

That's right...the entirety of his latest post is mindless copypasta from his own sidebar. It's almost as if he didn't have anything else to talk about...like, for example, the most recent ass-whipping administered to him by PZ Myers, courtesy of WDAY radio. Funny how that seems to have slipped his mind, isn't it?

I was going to go through an exhaustive point-by-point refutation of Ray's "Atheist Starter Kit", but then I realized that that would be taking the fun away from the rest of the Raytractors. So, please, respond on whichever points you wish...let's just make sure we hit them all at least once.

FAIL

In His workshop, the Almighty Lord

's latest effort no joy will afford.

He stares: "What the heck?! --

I've omitted the neck!

(Sigh.)  Back to the old drawing board."

Ray and Atheist Experience

http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/07/atheist-law-suit.html

Yep, Ray thinks that the 40 Atheists from his Dinner with 40 Atheists helped him out on this one...
Really, it was the guys from the Atheist Experience who encouraged Atheists to email Patrick... Not Ray's god.

http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2008/07/i-make-nice-with-ray-comfort.html


(on a side note, Matt D. really seems to want to have a debate with Ray Comfort, which he makes known several times in his Podcast)

UPDATE------

http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/2008/07/potential-law-suit.html?showComment=1217292420000#c4125932848106336435

There's the comment. Was it from Russell (Kazim)? I think so. And notice early on Ray doesn't use a spell check... Maybe his computer does not "alloow" it.

This Busy Monster

(Cross posted to Stranger Than Fiction )

pity this busy monster, manunkind
not. Progress is a comfortable disease:
your victim (death and life safely beyond)
plays with the bigness of his littleness
--electrons deify one razorblade
into a mountainrange; lenses extend
unwish through curving wherewhen until unwish
returns on its unself.
A world of made
is not a world of born – pity poor flesh
and trees, poor stars and stones, but not this
fine specimen of hypermagical
ultraomnipotence. We doctors know
a hopeless case if – listen: there’s a hell
of a good universe next door; let’s go.

(e.e. cummings)

I know everybody here remembers Ray's recent post entitled "Sad News for Some." It’s not the first time Ray has posted a fake obituary for himself. The bleevers always scold him "Don't do that to me, Ray!" and he always ignores them and does it again.

If you asked him, "Ray, why do you shock your friends like that? You know they'll believe anything they read on your page, you know what their reaction will be, so why do you do it?" he would protest that he does it as a joke on the atheists and that no harm is meant by it.

He might even add, “And if anybody’s dumb enough to believe it, that’s their problem.”

Here’s a not-totally-unrelated story that came to my mind when I read that post.

A schoolmate of mine, R., was a lovely young woman – tall and graceful, with dark hair, dark eyes, creamy skin and a throaty contralto voice. She was also painfully shy and self-conscious. Her brothers teased her cruelly, partly because their father did nothing to stop them.

One evening R. was babysitting her younger siblings when the phone rang. A male caller, who did not identify himself, informed her that her parents had been killed in a car accident. With shaking hands, she hung up the phone and sat down at the kitchen table to cry.

R. got another shock a couple of hours later, when the door opened and her parents walked in, alive and well.

Long story short: The unidentified male caller was R.’s own father. He had slipped away from whatever function they were attending and made a prank call.

He thought it was hilarious.

I’ve always wondered whether he thought R.’s subsequent breakdown was also funny. I certainly hope he was entertained by paying the bills for her meds and psychotherapy. It was months before R. could return to school, and years before she could be described as “normal” again. She’s still fragile – definitely not the woman she might have been – and while she seems to be on good terms with most of her family, she maintains as little contact with her father as possible.

I know that we neighbors were less than amused by the whole thing.

* * * * * * * * * *

[Aside to those who may be wondering why R. didn’t recognize her father’s voice: On the rural phone lines of thirty years ago, it was a wonder that any actual communication ever took place. They were that bad. And Call Display was still years in the future.]

* * * * * * * * * *

Of course I know that families hurt each other all the time, it’s not intentional, “it’s all fun ‘n’ games until someone loses an eye,” or their sanity, or something.

But some things simply shouldn’t be forgiven, not even by family – perhaps especially by family.

I’ll never understand why R.’s mother didn’t walk out of the house that night and take all six of her children with her. I’ll never understand why R.’s sister works for her father to this day. I can’t believe any of the kids actually trust their father. I know (the whole neighborhood knows) that the oldest son is busily, methodically robbing the old man blind and when he takes over the family business it will be bankrupt in less than six months, and I’ll never understand why this smart and successful businessman keeps this thief in his employ.

Then again, family is family. It’s not like you can simply pick another father, or another son. I’m reliably informed that mafiosos trust each other precisely because they can’t trust anybody else -- right up to the day when they turn on each other.

I know why Ray lies to his friends (same reason he lies to everybody else). I just don’t understand why they continue to follow him. It’s not like there aren’t other – and more appealing – bible-pounders available. I wonder what he could say that would convince any of them that he ain’t all that.

And (irony alert) they think we’re the miserable ones. At least we don’t feel obligated to keep company with people who can’t be trusted to behave properly.

Ray On Monkeys

"I never said we were unreasoning animals, I said we were animals. If you deny that we are then you need to go take a basic science course." F. Dust
This reveals why believers in the theory of evolution have the convictions of religious zealots. It also reveals why those who don’t believe as they do are seen as ignorant knuckle-draggers. If evolution is true, then man is simply an animal. That means he is free to embark on his sexual prowls, because it is nothing but a basic instinct to do so. It’s his procreative nature to fornicate, and therefore not a sin. For the atheist, this is a hill to die on.As one evolutionist says, "We are humans, yes, we are apes too. What you seem to ignore is that classifications need levels of categories. For instance, Chimps are chimps, just like humans are humans, and we both are apes (higher order of classification). The ape equation, we being animals too, is a natural conclusion, nothing to do with being 'sinners.'" (Italics added).Evolution swings open a door to do whatever the evolutionist pleases, as long as what he does is within the bounds of a civil law he is ever expanding to accommodate his sinful desires. If man is an animal he can even justify homosexual and bestiality, because “other” animals do it. To him, evolution is a license to act like an animal, and he does. The dictionary says that an animal is "any such living thing other than a human being." The word human means "lowly" or "frail," and the word being means that we are aware of our existence. We are unique among God’s creation in that we are not only morally responsible, but we are aware that we are going to die. There is a basic instinct within all sane human beings that wants to live. So, let me concede slightly and let you call it “an animal instinct.” Now, obey your basic instinct--turn from your sins, trust in Jesus Christ, and God will make you fit to survive on the Day of Judgment.
Posted by Ray Comfort on 7/26/2008 11:30:00 AM 2 comments

Well, now that Ray realizes he knows nothing of science, he goes on the attack. Kind of like an animal. ;)
Becoming a Christian is basic instinct? Since when? Was it an instinct before Jesus came down? Is it in our genes? If so, why are there tons of other Gods?
"God will make us fit to survive on the Day of Judgement"? Boring. That's not even a good shot at attempting to be funny. Even your jokes are used up.


What are your thoughts on this?


UPDATE----

Epic Fail of the Day

JOSHUA S BLACK said...
Oh, the venom that will displayed...on someone else's blogs!!! You know, the atheist strike could not have come at a better time.

Joshua, you're right. Maybe some Rayniacs will post "GREAT POST RAY". And, "ATHEISTS ARE SO DUMB! I R TEH SMART JOHN 3:16 RAY YOU ARE DA BEST! WE CHRISTIANS ARE SO MUCH MORE RASHUNAL BECUZ WE BLEEVE IN A GAWD BY FAITH! TOTAL EVIDENCE! EVOLUTION HAS NO PROOF!"