tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post5527131013068761858..comments2023-10-29T08:19:51.395-05:00Comments on The Raytractors - Ray Comfort's Detractors: GullibilityMacGyver Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02307024564664964571noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-20481893413409251822008-10-10T14:02:00.000-05:002008-10-10T14:02:00.000-05:00It is dead now, and the other one was ate. So I a...It is dead now, and the other one was ate. So I am beginning to think they may be false prophets....BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-52625135084305515262008-10-10T13:38:00.000-05:002008-10-10T13:38:00.000-05:00so... what is the sex of the 'pup'?so... what is the sex of the 'pup'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-60857902736662458532008-10-10T13:36:00.000-05:002008-10-10T13:36:00.000-05:00I would like to further derail this post to say th...I would like to further derail this post to say that maybe we should all start thinking of attending the Church of the Black tipped Shark.<BR/><BR/>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27107721/?GT1=43001BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-65346060824510780182008-10-10T12:09:00.000-05:002008-10-10T12:09:00.000-05:00Froggie said:"...our boys would sneak over there d...Froggie said:<BR/><BR/>"...our boys would sneak over there during the night and **** them up in one way or another just for the fun of it."<BR/>(yes, I edited it - sue me).<BR/><BR/>Such character building. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps this is why I quit scouts... maybe I have a mental block and had someone like you for a leader...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-38614782980465278762008-10-10T11:31:00.000-05:002008-10-10T11:31:00.000-05:00TSS said:"I thought atheists weren't allowed to jo...TSS said:<BR/><BR/>"I thought atheists weren't allowed to join the Boy Scouts."<BR/><BR/>In the US, any groups that are public funded in any way cannot discriminate in that respect. <BR/><BR/>Just FYI.<BR/><BR/>Also, contrary to some people's belief, there are many homosexual/gay individual involvded in all the Scouting organizations, although most at the upper levels (organizational headquarters, wot not).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-74451081359541917272008-10-10T08:55:00.000-05:002008-10-10T08:55:00.000-05:00SS,Our troup managed to stay totally secular.I was...SS,<BR/><BR/>Our troup managed to stay totally secular.<BR/>I was basically agnostic all those years so if I would have ever have been questioned about it I would have merely said I believe there is a God, which is all that is required, but I never heard that mentioned within our area in all my time as a leader.<BR/><BR/>Up here in PA, we don't have much fundy mentality, however there are church based troups that considered us as renigades and heathens at summer camps because we basically out competed them in every venue and when they sniveled and whined our boys would sneak over there during the night and fuck them up in one way or another just for the fun of it.<BR/><BR/>Now, in the bible belt the Boy Scouts act more like Sunday School classes and we ran into a few of those over the years. It always made me ill to see them praying before every event, etc, as if it meaned anything.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-85631056980016625842008-10-10T08:46:00.000-05:002008-10-10T08:46:00.000-05:00Froggie,"....Boy Scout leader for 14 years"I thoug...Froggie,<BR/><BR/>"....Boy Scout leader for 14 years"<BR/><BR/>I thought atheists weren't allowed to join the Boy Scouts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-30154478853043896962008-10-10T08:37:00.000-05:002008-10-10T08:37:00.000-05:00Addendum to earlier comment:Of course we do see a ...Addendum to earlier comment:<BR/><BR/>Of course we do see a certain number of kids that become totally conditioned into their parents beliefs and they end up as pious litte sons-of-bitches, in my opinion.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-69738835227857756262008-10-10T08:14:00.000-05:002008-10-10T08:14:00.000-05:00Here I find out I'm hanging out with a bunch of te...Here I find out I'm hanging out with a bunch of teenagers! Gahh!<BR/><BR/>Just kidding. My son is almost nineteen and he has been done well, except for a couple errors in judgement.<BR/><BR/>It is my experience with my son's friends, my other four kids, and as a Boy Scout leader for 14 years that parents that try to shove the irrational belief systems down their kids throats, demand from them even to comply, seem to have more strife and argumentation going on than parents who allow the kids to make their own choices.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-3788483155072008052008-10-10T07:38:00.000-05:002008-10-10T07:38:00.000-05:00I've heard that story before (slightly different)....I've heard that story before (slightly different). It's just an urban myth.Anna Sethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07863425770114336085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-34458271945902889052008-10-10T05:51:00.000-05:002008-10-10T05:51:00.000-05:00:-\this thread has long ago taken the wrong offram...:-\<BR/><BR/>this thread has long ago taken the wrong offramp to Tangentville.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-20093489488132840442008-10-10T00:53:00.000-05:002008-10-10T00:53:00.000-05:00Quasar,haha you're on an arrogant pun roll!!"I don...Quasar,<BR/><BR/>haha you're on an arrogant pun roll!!<BR/><BR/>"I don't know what would have happened to me in a situation like yours... I'd probably just end up as quiet around my family as I am around people I don't know (i.e. mute)."<BR/><BR/>I think you would have still turned out an atheist if you had theist parents, but like you said it's harder to communicate. I wonder about what I would be like with atheist parents. It's annoying right now because I'm basically living a lie around my family, they literally are the only people who don't know I'm not religious. I think I'll let them know when I'm out of the house because I accidentally said "jesus" in a cursing way in front of my dad and he shut off my internet for a few days. I'm quiet around new people too, but once I get to know them I can be a bit of an open book (i.e I'm horrible at lying). That's how my parents know about all the non consevative thoughts that go on in my brain.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the sympathies, I honestly can't even begin to describe how therapeutic talking to like minded people is, especially when I'm at home. It's like a portal to reality from my sometimes crazy house. <BR/><BR/>Ornitheologist,<BR/><BR/>You only have 4 years left to do crazy stuff, quick before it's too late!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-54119996567790484732008-10-09T23:50:00.000-05:002008-10-09T23:50:00.000-05:00Well, I'm a 2nd child and I'm 16... where does tha...Well, I'm a 2nd child and I'm 16... where does that put me? <BR/><BR/>Mindless git? I certainly hope not... but I suppose that if I <I>was</I>, I wouldn't really be aware of that one, minor detail.<BR/><BR/>Alcohol poisoning? Nope, not a chance.<BR/><BR/>Refuse to speak to my parents for months on end except when I need cash? While I can empathize with the needing cash part, I do have a relatively good relationship with my parents. Not perfect on any counts --they're old fashioned and crochety and otherwise disagreeable to the teenage mindset, after all-- but we get along, really, we do. <BR/><BR/>Total or otherwise destroy at least one car? So far so good. I have hit one deer --which survived, btw-- and which merely took out my left fender. In my defense, deer are rather proliferous up here in N. Idaho, so its not at all uncommon to hit them at random. I don't believe I know any adult that has lived here for any significant extent of time and has not hit one. And...technically, I didn't hit the deer; it hit me --stupid thing jumped on top of my hood. Now, please, what was that you were saying about teenagers being argumentative and overtly technical?<BR/><BR/>Also... I <I>am</I> only 16 so I still have a ways to go in proving my true ability at totaling vehicles. ;)Ornitheologisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04543594076285083610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-46873344532298450712008-10-09T23:22:00.000-05:002008-10-09T23:22:00.000-05:00hahahah hilarious "superiority complex" joke, spot...<I>hahahah hilarious "superiority complex" joke, spot on.</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks. I'm so funny.<BR/><BR/>Much more funny than <I>everyone else</I>!!!<BR/><BR/>Aw crap, now I feel like an arrogant jerk. I take that back.<BR/><BR/>Because I'm much less arrogant than <I>everyone else</I>!!!!!<BR/><BR/>Someone slap me.<BR/><BR/><I>"Your family dinners must be relatively peaceful, if I open my mouth too much my meals end in fights lol and my parents don't even know I'm an atheist. My liberal views alone are too much for them."</I><BR/><BR/>Heh heh. My brother no longer eats at home, so, yeah, it's been pretty quiet recently.<BR/><BR/>I don't know what would have happened to me in a situation like yours... I'd probably just end up as quiet around my family as I am around people I don't know (i.e. mute).<BR/><BR/>My sympathies: you're stronger willed than me if you still try to talk to others in that environment.Quasarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04219765882891909223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-75768625839139585702008-10-09T22:44:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:44:00.000-05:00Kelley,HAHA it's so true. The scary thing is if so...Kelley,<BR/><BR/>HAHA it's so true. The scary thing is if someone in the congregation had a seizure for real no one would notice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-30843311516882930572008-10-09T22:40:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:40:00.000-05:00Quasar,hahahah hilarious "superiority complex" jok...Quasar,<BR/><BR/>hahahah hilarious "superiority complex" joke, spot on.<BR/><BR/>My sister is the last and second born and she acts like it too. I swear she never gets into trouble. I think we are all stereotypes to some degree, I know I am. Except I'm not like my parents at all but religious and political wise my parents are batshit crazy, so I must be an exception. <BR/><BR/>"Heh, I suppose I can be excused on the parent hating front then: mine are atheists. I get along well with them: with the large issues, we agree on just about everything."<BR/><BR/>Your family dinners must be relatively peaceful, if I open my mouth too much my meals end in fights lol and my parents don't even know I'm an atheist. My liberal views alone are too much for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-66208869584479762612008-10-09T22:32:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:32:00.000-05:00@ Skeptical SorcererOh, sorry! Well thanks then. Y...@ Skeptical Sorcerer<BR/><BR/>Oh, sorry! Well thanks then. Yeah, some pretty serious crazy goes down in those churches. Like... Seizing-screaming-person-has-demon-cast-out-of-them crazy.<BR/><BR/>Eegh...Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16500994763769614452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-21921097051807957122008-10-09T22:29:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:29:00.000-05:00Sorry I spelled your name wrong :(You must get tha...Sorry I spelled your name wrong :(<BR/>You must get that alot. I get "Meghan" instead of "Megan", even by my close friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-25839190498844559982008-10-09T22:28:00.001-05:002008-10-09T22:28:00.001-05:00Heh, I suppose I can be excused on the parent hati...Heh, I suppose I can be excused on the parent hating front then: mine are atheists. I get along well with them: with the large issues, we agree on just about everything.<BR/><BR/>And I know what you mean, Skeptical Sorcerer, about "statistical correlations". I did a teensy bit of reading on birth order personality types a while back:<BR/><BR/>In family's with more than 2 children (of similar age), the first-born will generally be the one with the superiority complex, who takes most after their parents. <BR/><BR/>The second-born will usually be the most personable, with lots of friends, but easily influenced by them and rebellious against authority.<BR/><BR/>And the last born may be the spoilt in comparison, but will also normally be the most cheerful and happy.<BR/><BR/>These might be stereotypes (And I <I>hate</I> stereotypes), but statistically they are quite likely. My brother is second-born and last-born, and it shows.<BR/><BR/>I really want to make a self-depricating "superiority complex" joke here, but I'm afraid someone might take it seriously and think I'm arrogant. So... just pretend I made one. And that it was really funny.Quasarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04219765882891909223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-23132955846560711422008-10-09T22:28:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:28:00.000-05:00@ Kelly,oh my bad, I knew it was the same denomina...@ Kelly,<BR/><BR/>oh my bad, I knew it was the same denomination, not the exact same church, I just didn't articulate that well hehe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-24535866595856364162008-10-09T22:26:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:26:00.000-05:00@ Skeptical Sorcerer Haha, not Palin's personal ch...@ Skeptical Sorcerer <BR/><BR/>Haha, not Palin's personal church in Wasilla, the same denomination, but those videos circulating on YouTube are definitely nothing surprising.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16500994763769614452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-6994260060831755072008-10-09T22:23:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:23:00.000-05:00oh I forgot, wow! You went to Palin's church and m...oh I forgot, wow! You went to Palin's church and made it out ok?? I think you need an award.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-24193458339461715042008-10-09T22:22:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:22:00.000-05:00Those Pentecostal services are really scary especi...Those Pentecostal services are really scary especially when you're a kid. I think my parents are equally crazy, but in different ways. My dad is more of a fundamentalist, but my mom believes in alot of weird stuff like spirits, possessions, aliens, etc. She'll believe pretty much anything supernatural and it's all "the work of the devil".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-43006975466856614822008-10-09T22:17:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:17:00.000-05:00Assemblies of God (yes, of Sarah Palin infamy)and ...Assemblies of God (yes, of Sarah Palin infamy)and I totally survived the crazy pentecostal services, too.<BR/>(I'm sorry, but those are terrifying.) My dad is definitely the most religious (read: crazy) in our family; my mom was originally from happy mostly secular Midwestern Lutheran stock.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16500994763769614452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-60704846965952159182008-10-09T22:08:00.000-05:002008-10-09T22:08:00.000-05:00Protestant Missionary, my dad is more like Penteco...Protestant Missionary, my dad is more like Pentecostal. When I was little he would take me to this one church where people would be screaming and falling over left and right. How about yours??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com