tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post3100382172277294743..comments2023-10-29T08:19:51.395-05:00Comments on The Raytractors - Ray Comfort's Detractors: Shutting up MrFreethinkerMacGyver Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02307024564664964571noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-1766746044609365852008-10-19T11:49:00.000-05:002008-10-19T11:49:00.000-05:00Without the authority of the bible, Christianity f...Without the authority of the bible, Christianity falls apart.<BR/><BR/>The knowlege we have today doesn't disprove God, or make God obsolete, but it does serve to show that, as Albert Einstein said-<BR/><BR/><B>"The Bible is a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."</B><BR/><BR/>No one can convince anyone with any degree of credibility that the Bible is the true inspired word of God. All they have is their belief that it is, but simply won't admit that their view is merely based on faith, not based on reality.Benjamin Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00975695604400974378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-41975703485443148532008-10-18T18:11:00.000-05:002008-10-18T18:11:00.000-05:00"Freethinker","I hope some of the point of Maragon..."Freethinker",<BR/><BR/>"I hope some of the point of Maragon's response were due to a hasty reading because I do address a lot of her objections in my essay."<BR/><BR/>I assume by 'address' you mean 'make shit up' or 'I got it from the bible so its true.'<BR/><BR/>You assume in your premise that the bible is a factual historical document. Not so.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"//I have seen no evidence to convince me that any historians without an obvious bias or slant accept any of your 'facts' other than the first one.//<BR/>did you check any of the names I mentioned in the last thread?"<BR/><BR/>Did I read the ramblings of theologians and 'biblical scholars'?<BR/>No, because they're not real, credible historians.<BR/><BR/>"//they represent nothing more than a fanatical fringe group akin to the intelligent design movement in biology.//<BR/>it would be nice if you could provide documentation for this."<BR/><BR/>It was your claim that these men are all accredited historians, A quick google search shows them to be few historians and a ton of theologians and 'bible scholars' - some with completely unrelated degrees.<BR/>I don't feel I should have to do your research for you. If you want to make a claim - or repeat one, in this case - verify your facts FIRST.<BR/><BR/>I've been reading that several people have pointed out the issues with your 'historian' and his 'survey' to you. If you didn't bother to respond to their facts when confronted with them, I doubt you'd do much if I bothered to google everything for you.Maragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12231231272552028973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-84796968257501745682008-10-18T18:01:00.000-05:002008-10-18T18:01:00.000-05:00@ discomforting Ignorance- I was typing up that re...@ discomforting Ignorance- I was typing up that response to your questions right now ( I am done with most of them but still have to check out a couple things with regard to Habermas' survey and the citations from the letters of the early chruch fathers) but the response will be up tomorrow.<BR/>@Maragon<BR/>I hope some of the point of Maragon's response were due to a hasty reading because I do address a lot of her objections in my essay.<BR/>//I have seen no evidence to convince me that any historians without an obvious bias or slant accept any of your 'facts' other than the first one.//<BR/>did you check any of the names I mentioned in the last thread?<BR/>//they represent nothing more than a fanatical fringe group akin to the intelligent design movement in biology.//<BR/>it would be nice if you could provide documentation for this.<BR/>god blessMrFreeThinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778096949945818236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-52548427188553467672008-10-18T17:42:00.000-05:002008-10-18T17:42:00.000-05:00"Mrfreethinker" is an oxymoron in this case.He doe..."Mrfreethinker" is an oxymoron in this case.<BR/><BR/>He doesn't have an original thought of his own.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-3389498448149696632008-10-18T15:57:00.000-05:002008-10-18T15:57:00.000-05:00Oh, their mocking blog is called "debunking crap" ...Oh, their mocking blog is called "debunking crap" or something like that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-71530248552013455962008-10-18T15:56:00.000-05:002008-10-18T15:56:00.000-05:00His "MrFreeThinker" name is due, probably, to he b...His "MrFreeThinker" name is due, probably, to he being part of a group mocking the "debunking Christians" blog. All of them chose name tags related to skepticism (some deformed for better effect).<BR/><BR/>Ironic, since, yes, he does not seem that much of a free thinker, and since that actually works against them.<BR/><BR/>G.E.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-605879411163676042008-10-18T14:42:00.000-05:002008-10-18T14:42:00.000-05:00Someone, maybe it was MFT under a different name, ...Someone, maybe it was MFT under a different name, directed me to these 'proofs' not too long ago. It was ridiculous shit then and it remains the same. Good job taking them apart.nonmagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-60182807504040773142008-10-18T13:05:00.000-05:002008-10-18T13:05:00.000-05:00I mean no disrespect by mentioning it.My purpose b...I mean no disrespect by mentioning it.<BR/>My purpose being that the Holocaust was a fairly recent and world-changing event. It affects people regards of religious, political and social affiliations.<BR/><BR/>There's a staggering amount of information available on the subject, and yes there isn't and will never be a consensus on what happened when, where, how and why.Maragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12231231272552028973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-38026840185887171402008-10-18T12:54:00.000-05:002008-10-18T12:54:00.000-05:00I think you should have avoided bringing in mentio...I think you should have avoided bringing in mention of the Holocaust. It's a far too big thing, which I assume is precisely why you did bring it in. But it's just getting dragged around for too many purposes as it is. I'm not concerned that you would go there, but whenever people pick it up and make it a 'he said, she said' thing, it becomes an idiom, which is a trivialization I wouldn't accept. It's bad enough that 150 years from now, people will be thinking Hitlerstalin Polpotmao was one person. ;)felixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00749925395851545703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-91574979734419152782008-10-18T11:39:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:39:00.000-05:00Disco,I read your post, thanks very much for point...Disco,<BR/><BR/>I read your post, thanks very much for pointing that out.<BR/><BR/>I wonder why Freethinker hasn't responded yet.Maragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12231231272552028973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-89909114355062987702008-10-18T11:06:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:06:00.000-05:00Thanks for the Discoigno, I'll look over that. =)Thanks for the Discoigno, I'll look over that. =)Maragonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12231231272552028973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-87787935009318862832008-10-18T11:03:00.000-05:002008-10-18T11:03:00.000-05:00He posted his case for Jesus' resurrection as a su...He posted his case for Jesus' resurrection as a submission to <A HREF="http://disco-igno.blogspot.com/2008/10/christian-response-1-jesus-resurrection.html" REL="nofollow">my request</A> for Christians to convince me. I posted <A HREF="http://disco-igno.blogspot.com/2008/10/response-to-mrfreethinker-1-jesus.html" REL="nofollow">follow-up questions</A> I'm still waiting for him to answer before I analyze it.DisComforting Ignorancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04279112381253209661noreply@blogger.com