tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post2694359857487061875..comments2023-10-29T08:19:51.395-05:00Comments on The Raytractors - Ray Comfort's Detractors: Questions for Christians: The Bible and ScienceMacGyver Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02307024564664964571noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-6913544761766880332008-09-28T13:49:00.000-05:002008-09-28T13:49:00.000-05:00Why does Dave use a 400 year-old translation of t...Why does Dave use a 400 year-old translation of the text he seeks to discredit? If he was earnestly seeking truth he would use a modern translation.<BR/>Who do Dave's questions about miracles (like the talking donkey and the sun standing still and the resurrection) question-beg naturalism? Can Dave prove naturalism is true? Is he just saying the bible is false because it contradicts his naturalistic worldview?<BR/>How does Dave know the massacre never happened? I am going to need something more substantial than an argument from silence. Perhaps he interviewed all the poeple in the are and they said the massacre never happened (oh wait he couldn't do that because they were dead)?MrFreeThinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12778096949945818236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-12896889860273747922008-08-08T21:27:00.000-05:002008-08-08T21:27:00.000-05:00I, too, am unimpressed with jrk83's performance. Y...I, too, am unimpressed with jrk83's performance. You could at least <I>try,</I> you know.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17566025845622103369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-75024619310563907302008-08-08T08:55:00.000-05:002008-08-08T08:55:00.000-05:00Well, let's see... An appeal to "context", an acc...Well, let's see... An appeal to "context", an accusation of mistranslation (which accounts - poorly - for exactly <I>one</I> of SD's <I>twenty</I> points), a flat denial of the consensus of the scientific community regarding evolution, an excuse for not answering the questions because, allegedly, we're "not interested in the answers", and to top it off, a declaration of victory followed by a fleeing of the field.<BR/><BR/>What a joke.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry, jrk83...you won't need to return to rebut me, as you've provided nothing worth discussing in the first place. <BR/>What a disappointment.TripMaster Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13780570912044493356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-88161396644543891162008-08-08T08:27:00.000-05:002008-08-08T08:27:00.000-05:00Tripmaster Monkey & Dale,These questions are m...Tripmaster Monkey & Dale,<BR/><BR/>These questions are mostly simple mistakes made by Silent Dave or whoever he got his references from, in that they read their objections into the text (a dangerous process called eisegesis). Many who post here are fond of accusing "Rayliens" of quote mining, yet you applaud Silent Dave for such tactics. In fact, some of these questions entail finding one particular translation that is not even necessarily that faithful to the original language (such as the KJV rendition of "unicorn" when pretty much every other English translation agrees that this is an allusion to the horns (plural) of an ox - and therefore an appeal to strength).<BR/><BR/>As far as the scientific "fact" of evolution, there are scientists who disagree with this conclusion ... not just pastors and bible thumpers. However, you disqualify these scientists from the jump and say they are "stupid" (to borrow a nice ad hominem) or biased (to poison the well). Unfortunately, these are not good enough reasons unless you think that theists should accept fallacious reasoning when it comes from you and only deny it when it comes from others (like themselves).<BR/><BR/>Third, we don't answer questions like these in detail because it is clear you are not open or interested in hearing the answer. I began to answer the first post in Silent Dave's series and he told me that he'd rather have me leave. So I did (although I did take the time to respond to one other person who directly addressed me before doing so). Why should we take the time to answer a question no one wants to hear and which won't make a difference because Silent Dave knows it all already?<BR/><BR/>I won't be responding again to this post, so feel free to respond however you want knowing that I won't be taking the time to rebut your claims. That means you can revert to calling me Jerk83, Dale :)<BR/><BR/>Take care.Joe K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16735112087369130619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-88058374377689451862008-08-07T19:08:00.000-05:002008-08-07T19:08:00.000-05:00<crickets>...It's not surprising that th...<crickets><BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>It's not surprising that the theists are avoiding this post...<I>way</I> too many difficult questions.<BR/><BR/>Come on, Raylians! We <I>know</I> you're lurking here...why can't you show the courage of your convictions and respond? Your magic sky daddy is ashamed of you!TripMaster Monkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13780570912044493356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-77889714978855704072008-08-07T19:02:00.000-05:002008-08-07T19:02:00.000-05:00You will never get aq fundamentalist christin to r...You will never get aq fundamentalist christin to reply to a post like this. It is too well thought out and too wel written, but their comprehension will never allow it.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Froggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12972110380349786742noreply@blogger.com