tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post1816881863459573910..comments2023-10-29T08:19:51.395-05:00Comments on The Raytractors - Ray Comfort's Detractors: Philosophical ChristianityMacGyver Jrhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02307024564664964571noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-16001159838558668562008-12-08T16:03:00.000-06:002008-12-08T16:03:00.000-06:00Are we taking bets as to who this Ezeki'El guy is?...Are we taking bets as to who this Ezeki'El guy is?ExPatMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08666078524214384329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-19779506695262261972008-12-06T02:50:00.000-06:002008-12-06T02:50:00.000-06:00Stew: The Tao of Pooh, by Benjamin Hoff, definitel...Stew: <I>The Tao of Pooh</I>, by Benjamin Hoff, definitely. That was the first book I read on Taoism, and captures the essence of Taoism brilliantly.<BR/><BR/>Chris: I'm not actually familiar with that quote. Indeed, I'm not too familiar with Taoism's history, or with Lao Tzu, at all: just the philosophy. <I>Wu wei</I>.Quasarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04219765882891909223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-85607572628933024292008-12-05T17:17:00.000-06:002008-12-05T17:17:00.000-06:00@ ObsidianI've always had a bit of a fascination w...@ Obsidian<BR/><BR/>I've always had a bit of a fascination with Taoism I must admit. <BR/><BR/>Could you elaborate a bit further? I'd especially like your interpretation of Lao Tzu's remark that 'When tao is lost only then does the doctrine of virtue arise'.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08281025205602142063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-19587442192161923332008-12-05T12:57:00.000-06:002008-12-05T12:57:00.000-06:00Ezeki'El,Is it a requirement for people who believ...Ezeki'El,<BR/><BR/>Is it a requirement for people who believe that Da Fairy Jebus is gonna piss on the head of San Fran to have an alternative spelling of their name that includes an apostrophe?<BR/><BR/>Just curious.nonmagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-22933000201185003192008-12-05T12:39:00.000-06:002008-12-05T12:39:00.000-06:00Whateverman - If I was to read one book on philoso...Whateverman - If I was to read one book on philosophical Taoism, what would it be?Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13584058723818113125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-57841169657508468372008-12-05T11:45:00.000-06:002008-12-05T11:45:00.000-06:00@ Ezeki'ElWow.Another messianic who thinks San Fra...@ Ezeki'El<BR/>Wow.<BR/>Another messianic who thinks San Fran is going down? What are the chances?<BR/>Have you ever heard of Dani'El?Obsidianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07492809766606634642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-81958452776547505702008-12-05T11:19:00.000-06:002008-12-05T11:19:00.000-06:00Hello Ezeki'El,How's it going?Hello Ezeki'El,<BR/><BR/>How's it going?ExPatMatthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08666078524214384329noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-12887044607549178242008-12-05T09:09:00.000-06:002008-12-05T09:09:00.000-06:00I also really like some of the concepts of Taoism,...I also really like some of the concepts of Taoism, minus the supernatural. I've been looking into it for about 8 years now. <BR/><BR/>I think if there ever was a historical Jesus, it would be interesting to know what he was really like and what he really promoted, verses the word of mouth bunk of the bible.nonmagichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12986030395050670437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-67374981813666201572008-12-05T08:34:00.000-06:002008-12-05T08:34:00.000-06:00Tilia, they didn't have Darwin to give them the sc...Tilia, they didn't have Darwin to give them the scientific rationale. <BR/><BR/>It's difficult to imagine a world without the theory of evolution. But back in their day it didn't exist. How about that? No theory of evolution! They had to wrestle unaided against 1000s of years of theology. They could say it was all wrong, but they couldn't figure out what to replace it with. That must have been tough.Stewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13584058723818113125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-86485665925072779852008-12-05T08:23:00.000-06:002008-12-05T08:23:00.000-06:00I, too have adopted a secular humanist view.Mankin...I, too have adopted a secular humanist view.<BR/><BR/>Mankind knows far too little about the physical world for us to arbitrarily discount the possibility of supernatural, or divine intervention, and/or creation. It simply has not been, and possibly may never be proven.<BR/><BR/>That being said, we <B>do</B> know enough now to be able to completely discount the bible as being the inerrant, literal history of the universe and mankind. <BR/><BR/>It is way past time for religions, particularly Islam and Christianity to reflect our current state of knowledge.<BR/><BR/>But, being the Certified Cynic that I am, way too many people are way too blockheaded and ignorant.<BR/><BR/>I fear that we have not seen the last of massive killing and destruction based on the stupidity of "My God is better than yours", or "My God has told us to destroy you", or "My God is the only true God".Benjamin Franklinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00975695604400974378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-4872484169671770982008-12-05T08:19:00.000-06:002008-12-05T08:19:00.000-06:00You may tamper with religion, but the Living God n...You may tamper with religion, but the Living God never changesEzeki'Elhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351155925576150129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-39039940938865688182008-12-05T08:17:00.000-06:002008-12-05T08:17:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ezeki'Elhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17351155925576150129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-16321239192110685892008-12-05T06:12:00.000-06:002008-12-05T06:12:00.000-06:00Well I was a Christian until about a year ago. I ...Well I was a Christian until about a year ago. I have looked back on my philosophy at the time and even then I was more of a Secular Humanist. I think a lot could easily move to a Humanist idea centered around a God. That is basically what I was doing until I finally asked myself why I believed.BeamStalkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17772110446629492132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-23965855241961460992008-12-05T03:26:00.000-06:002008-12-05T03:26:00.000-06:00been reading Voltaire lately? This sound a lot lik...been reading Voltaire lately? This sound a lot like enlightenment.<BR/>What a pity that those 18th century philosophers didn't fully succeed.Anna Sethehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07863425770114336085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-23226801005301049712008-12-05T00:43:00.000-06:002008-12-05T00:43:00.000-06:00Deleted previous due to incoherent drunken postThe...Deleted previous due to incoherent drunken post<BR/><BR/>The book of five rings is awesome.<BR/><BR/>I think that the historical Jesus was both a philosophical Christian and a great marketeer. He bases Christianity off a previous religion to gain credibility (I'm channelling Lenin here), then uses this credibility to propose a moral framework that he intends to improve the people of the day.<BR/><BR/>Sure its stale now, but it was pretty amazing considering what was happening back in the day. Just like Lenin made Russia into a power-house, but it went pretty stale too.<BR/><BR/>Now it cant work today because of the simple fact it is based on a previous religion. Marketing, fads or tipping points are all temporary. In this case its not the ideals but the marketing that let him down.<BR/><BR/>The people need a new ideology if they're going to move past religion. All those in favour of secular humanism say aye.Vagonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05758734418127314111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-64176881544177692192008-12-05T00:38:00.000-06:002008-12-05T00:38:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Vagonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05758734418127314111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-29194223891252795942008-12-05T00:26:00.000-06:002008-12-05T00:26:00.000-06:00Isn't it said that if you can explain Tao, you don...Isn't it said that if you can explain Tao, you don't understand Tao?KiwiInOzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01990626308558012109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-21177367391928458772008-12-05T00:21:00.000-06:002008-12-05T00:21:00.000-06:00"Transmogrify"+5 for obscure words popularized by ..."Transmogrify"<BR/><BR/>+5 for obscure words popularized by Calvin and Hobbes.Kelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16500994763769614452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4140917903722388348.post-90367984096425653242008-12-05T00:13:00.000-06:002008-12-05T00:13:00.000-06:00Hmmm, I don't know. I have mixed feelings on the l...Hmmm, I don't know. I have mixed feelings on the liberal Christians. A lot of them just want to believe in some sort of old, detached senile God that will let them indulge in all the lusts (homosexuality, divorce...etc) that they like. I dislike that kind.<BR/>However I do like the basic idea of the Christian outlook shaping people's worldviews , even if they do not hold to all tenets of traditinal Christianity.Obsidianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07492809766606634642noreply@blogger.com